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Tuvok in year of hell?

Kes said that she was going to give Tuvok a Debriefing about the Krenim in Before and After, but a year later the Security Chief did not "obviously" act on that foreknowledge.

TUVOK: While I agree it would not be wise for Kes to make all of her experiences public, a report on anything she knows about these Krenim might be useful.
KES: I'll get started right away.
JANEWAY: Hang on a minute. I didn't mean now. Stay and enjoy your party.
KES: If there's one thing that this experience has taught me, Captain, it's that there's no time like the present.

What is wrong with Tuvok!!??
 
There was nothing they could do but await their fates whatever they were. Annorax had a mighty 'weapon'.
 
Even though Kes was now a space-god and Seven had joined the crew?

The futures that Kes saw quickly became impossible, even if we were observing the same timeline from Caretaker to Endgame, which we didn't.
 
Rule?

All he could do was tilt the table whenever he felt like it.

For 200 years, this #### tried and failed to bring his wife back, by tilting the table thousands of times to unpredictable and undesirable results.
 
Rule?

All he could do was tilt the table whenever he felt like it.

For 200 years, this #### tried and failed to bring his wife back, by tilting the table thousands of times to unpredictable and undesirable results.
A real man would do anything for his wife.
 
New quantum realities grow from every choice, right?

That's not the fake space science at work here, but it's an almost absolute certainty that it's happening as well the timeline re-writing from the krenim temporal device, even though it seems like we are only tracking one habitually violated quantum reality.

We perilously followed a narrow path of choices, where Anorax never got his wife back because there was always at least a 50/50 chance that the new stratagem with his time-gun was going to work. There were an infinite amount of other paths (that we the audience could have followed) where he got the wife back, or not.
 
New quantum realities grow from every choice, right?

That's not the fake space science at work here, but it's an almost absolute certainty that it's happening as well the timeline re-writing from the krenim temporal device, even though it seems like we are only tracking one habitually violated quantum reality.

We perilously followed a narrow path of choices, where Anorax never got his wife back because there was always at least a 50/50 chance that the new stratagem with his time-gun was going to work. There were an infinite amount of other paths (that we the audience could have followed) where he got the wife back, or not.
Yes. However in the context of the show we don't have access to the theoretical potential realities that may or may not exist.

I must admit my speculative and space science (even science science) strengths become tested. I'm more literary in structure of story. I'm not even sure what Tuvok knew or was briefed on by the time Year of Hell took place.
 
The TNG episode Parallels says that Quantum Universes are constantly being created in the Star Trek Multiverse... Which seem to maybe be different from Mirror universes.

But using only the fake science from Year of Hell, Janeway did not invent Temporal Shields in the first multi-thousand redressings of the timeline furnished by Anorax's temporal weapon firing. In every version of the timeline where Janeway knows about the Krenim from Kes, she can defeat or avoid the (regular) Krenim without needing to invent temporal shields which gets the attention of Anorax.

If Janeway doesn't stop Anorax, then he fires the weapon again, and she has to "relive" her entire life again from Birth to the next time Anorax fires his gun, ad infinitum.
 
Or Janeway and Voyager live the timeline they do ... survive, and Annorax does too with a the future he probably didn't deserve but ended up with.
 
I always saw the ending as Voyager escaping from a time loop in which Annorax was forever stuck, changing and altering the timelines in the region for all eternity forever loosing his wife.

As for Tuvok. I don't know an in-universe explanation and I can't think of a good one, I suspect that the writers didn't bother to watch Before and After before writing Year of Hell. Kes doesn't seem the type to forget to do something she promised and Tuvok would be the type to read it.
 
Janeway and Torres also got fried in Kes's version of Year of Hell from standing too close to an exploding console, that was avoided the second time around.
 
I love how Seven guides and assists Tuvok in this ep while he was impaired... I wish they'd built up more of a friendship between those two actually. They do have some in common with one another.
 
I love how Seven guides and assists Tuvok in this ep while he was impaired... I wish they'd built up more of a friendship between those two actually. They do have some in common with one another.
I liked that too. I think she felt responsible as she was with him when he had the accident but she was so attentive to him thereafter.
 
Janeway (Tom, Chakotay and some of Annorax's crew) really stopped him in the end.

Time's up!

Janeway ordered her fleet to turn off their temporal shields so that when she rammed the weapon, they would all be deleted and replaced with innocent versions of themselves when the weapon ate itself and never happened.

Mass suicide/murder.

Jones Town in space.
 
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