Trek Returning to TV in 2017!

[Smoked Salmon]

Which isn't true as there's been a spike in sales when each film comes around. The Abrams films have generated interest in the greater Trek franchise.

Then tell me why the nuTrek merchandise hardly sells and TNG barely made a penny on it's blu-ray release?

Because the wider audience that they are making the films for, aren't the types to go buy models and toys of the ships, and purchase an older series on blu ray. The films are supposed to make money for itself and it's production companies. It's not JJTreks job to raise the sales for TNG blu-rays, nor do I think was Paramount expecting that.

I think Paramount was expecting that the movie series would bring a whole new generation of fans to the franchise as a whole. That simply hasn't happened. These new movies have catered almost entirely for the summer bloackbuster, non-fan audience. To that extent they have been successful in their short term financial return. There is no denying that. But they haven't given a boost to the franchise as a whole in a manner they might have, say in the manner that the Doctor Who revival drew attention to the whole history of the show and tripled it's fan base by uniting fans young and old, and bringing in others.

I don't know how old some of you are, but I am old enough to have been around throughout each and every spin off of Trek, starting with The Motion Picture onwards, and the fandom and interest in Star Trek at the moment is a faint shadow of what it was in the mid to late 80s and 90s. Back then the franchise was an unstoppable juggernaut. It was a golden age of Trek. Even websites like this were four times as busy. This most certainly isn't a golden age of Trek. It's the least interest I've seen in the franchise in nearly 40 years of being a fan.

Let's hope the new show changes that. I just wish Kurtzman wasn't attached and the team behind it was entirely fresh.

 

[TrekToday]

New Trek TV Series In The Works!

Star Trek will be back on TV in January 2017! Alex Kurtzman is developing a new Star Trek series with CBS Television...

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[Squiggy]

I think it's larger than you assume.

Nope.

Polling here (admittedly unscientific) has it about 70-80% approval.

They've made hundreds of millions of dollars.

And the Facebook anti-JJ pages usually have one or two people screaming about how much their childhood has been raped.

So, if you can point me to some evidence where this rebooted universe that has spawned three movies, a new series, with a 4th movie on the way has failed...I'd love to see it. If you can't then please stop coming in here and shitting on the rug.

 

[Smoked Salmon]

You do realize that the portion of the fandom that hates the Abramsverse that much is a pretty small portion, right?

I think it's larger than you assume.

You mean in reality or the demographic from these boards?
Speaking of which - too soon for a "Blue Warp Nacelles" thread?

I don't spend a lot of time on these boards. But I do know a lot of fans who have not enjoyed the reboot, mostly Into Darkness, so I think this idea that the reboot have brought fandom together and it's just a few old school moaners left opposing it is a fallacy.

 

[superdeluxe]

Beyond excited for this.

 

[Smoked Salmon]

I think it's larger than you assume.

Nope.

Polling here (admittedly unscientific) has it about 70-80% approval.

They've made hundreds of millions of dollars.

And the Facebook anti-JJ pages usually have one or two people screaming about how much their childhood has been raped.

So, if you can point me to some evidence where this rebooted universe that has spawned three movies, a new series, with a 4th movie on the way has failed...I'd love to see it. If you can't then please stop coming in here and shitting on the rug.

"Polling here". Yeah, well "here" is not the be all and end all of fandom.

I also never claimed it was a majority. But 30% dislike from the fandom is not a small number and chump change.

Why are you so opposed to those fans being brought back into the fold? What is the chip on your shoulder in that regard?

 

[MarsWeeps]

Re: New Trek TV Series In The Works!

How about consolidating the numerous threads that have popped up in multiple forums?

 

[Mister Spock]

Haters Gonna Hate.

Me, I'm bloody excited. I hope that they follow the TNG formula and jump another century or so into the future and we can have a clean slate for world building.

Also, I think it'd be important for it to be about a ship named Enterprise.

 

[Misfit Toy]

Re: Why would CBS do this?

Combining this with the existing thread...

 

[stardream]

Re: Why would CBS do this?

I don't have a problem with that but then I'm one of the ones who bought my first DVD player back in the day just so I could watch the LoTR extended editions.

Then I bought a Blu-Ray for the same reason.

Six dollars for a streaming service is nothing.

 

[ozzfloyd]

I think it's larger than you assume.

You mean in reality or the demographic from these boards?
Speaking of which - too soon for a "Blue Warp Nacelles" thread?

I don't spend a lot of time on these boards. But I do know a lot of fans who have not enjoyed the reboot, mostly Into Darkness, so I think this idea that the reboot have brought fandom together and it's just a few old school moaners left opposing it is a fallacy.

And I know a number of die hard fans that HATED Trek 09 and after seeing Into Darkness said "Now that's more like it!".

 

[BillJ]

I don't spend a lot of time on these boards. But I do know a lot of fans who have not enjoyed the reboot, mostly Into Darkness, so I think this idea that the reboot have brought fandom together and it's just a few old school moaners left opposing it is a fallacy.

I keep hearing this. So where are they at? Pretty much every place I go on the internet, the films rate pretty highly.

 

[C.E. Evans]

Re: Why would CBS do this?

It's a sure-fire way to get more people to subscribe to CBS All Access.

 

[ihno]

Re: Why would CBS do this?

Who the heck uses CBS All Access? Put it on regular TV.

I'm not subscribing to that, so most of their viewers are just going to pirate the show.

If $6 a month is that big a hurdle, then you have other problems in life that need to be solved.

Lol, there are a lot of things people can afford but still don't purchase if they think there is something wrong with them.

edit: For example the second JJTrek movie. It was not money shortage why I didn't watch it in the theatre.

 

[Tim Thomason]

This isn't the place to debate the movies, since this is a thread about a new TV series featuring new characters in new situations.

The Star Trek.com article says:

The next chapter of the Star Trek franchise will also be distributed concurrently for television and multiple platforms around the world by CBS Studios International.

...which implies to me that there will be some televised venue to watch this series for free. Maybe not in the US, but at least internationally.

The whole streaming idea makes me wonder if they plan to release multiple episodes (a 13-episode season?) on one day in January, or if CBS will go for a weekly/monthly/whatever schedule in releasing the series.

 

[milo bloom]

Given the star power in the cast and the fact that they have failed in the long term to generate interest in the larger franchise, I'd say it's inevitable their days are numbered, even if they do a fourth or even fifth picture.

Which isn't true as there's been a spike in sales when each film comes around. The Abrams films have generated interest in the greater Trek franchise.

Then tell me why the nuTrek merchandise hardly sells and TNG barely made a penny on it's blu-ray release?

While I owned the TNG DVDs and sold them in anticipation of buying the Blurays, I have yet to do so because all of Trek is available for streaming. A lot of people are moving away from physical media in general towards streaming, our family included. The Blurays came a little too late in the cycle, and frankly the prices were too high (and still are).


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I'm not yet excited about this news, even though I should be. I guess we've had so many false starts over the years, and ENT ended with a fizzle (even though S4 had some of their strongest episodes).

I'm torn on the fact that it's not related to the new films, they've gone to all this trouble to make all the new concepts that it seems a shame to not utilize them, but it will also be good to get back to the Prime universe. I'm hoping for another 100 year jump past the TNG era for new stories.

 

[Greg Cox]

...and the division in fandom caused by the reboot, especially Into Darkness, is a testament to that.

You do realize that the portion of the fandom that hates the Abramsverse that much is a pretty small portion, right?

Anywho, the goal is to expand the fandom, not to continue to cater to a shrinking fanbase.

Bingo. And, in the long run, it's the general audience that determines whether a show succeeds or not. STAR TREK isn't made just for us hardcore fans. It's intended for everybody.

 

[Vanyel]

I wonder if this means the future films are in doubt? Last I heard, Trek 4 (14) was in the pipeline with the same cast, Kirk n Spock.

I'm guessing a different crew still set in the Abramsverse.

God I hope not.

 

[Servo]

"Polling here". Yeah, well "here" is not the be all and end all of fandom.

Neither is your "I know a lot of fans.." anecdote.

 

[Shazam!]

God I hope not.

Yeah, Kirk or bust. Even it means a full on recast I just can't be bothered investing in a new crew anymore. Wrap up the movies with Beyond and then continue the adventures on TV.