Transparent Displays

[XCV330]

At San Francisco Fleet Yards:

"Hey Mike, the Reliant refit is done. Sign off on it, will ya?"

"Oh yeah, let me see that print out. Looks good. Looks good. hey wait, its only 645,000 metric tonnes"

"The new nacelles, they got rid of the glowing things on on the front, and they're thinner too"

"Yeah yeah, the contract says the Miranda class is 655,000 tons, says so right here on Memory Alpha, and Starfleet isn't going to pay us all that non-money if we don't deliver on spec, my friend."

"So what are you saying boss?"

"Put some ballast in there. I don't know. Some rocks from Deimos in the bulkhead gaps.. sheesh. That's a lotta rubble. Where's an empty place.. uh.. right there where the skylight used to go on the bridge. Pack it in tight."

"perfect, I'll get right on it."

 

[F. King Daniel]

Got me a Valve Index VR kit a few days ago, and I've been using floating holographic displays to manipulate menus while using it. They work just fine. They're not translucent but I 100% get why they do in that way in PIC, to see the actors through them. Solid displays would limit shots severely.

 

[RAMA]

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Now all we need are smaller consumer versions without the dead pixels

 

[TRON JA307020]

Now all we need are smaller consumer versions without the dead pixels

funny how they used a black back drop so they could see the screen better. These aren’t an amazing new invention. There is a reason why they haven’t caught on.

 

[fireproof78]

Cool. Still look good in Picard.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

I still think they have incredibly limited use and value.

Floating Holographic Displays are a nice to have, but as a backup interface.
Moving your hands around in the air gets tiring incredibly fast.

Solid 3D Holograms without any signal integrity issues were already a thing in Star Trek, even for communication.

We should be using more of that and a variety of solid 3D interfaces and solid 3D holograms for communication.

 

[fireproof78]

Floating Holographic Displays are a nice to have, but as a backup interface.

Here's my thing-this is Star Trek. There should not be a single technology that is mandatory use for people for individual use. If they want the GUI to be a particular way then away we go. I think if a person got tired too easily, or couldn't utilize the holographic displays they could change it.

But, that's the option that I want to have. Give me the holograms.No worse that writing on a whiteboard like I do all day at work.

 

[TRON JA307020]

I still think they have incredibly limited use and value.

Floating Holographic Displays are a nice to have, but as a backup interface.
Moving your hands around in the air gets tiring incredibly fast.

Solid 3D Holograms without any signal integrity issues were already a thing in Star Trek, even for communication.

We should be using more of that and a variety of solid 3D interfaces and solid 3D holograms for communication.

Yeah I was shocked that 800 years later they are still using the crappy see through holo displays from everything to signs and displays. The superior holograms of TNG just aren’t used. Weird.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

Yeah I was shocked that 800 years later they are still using the crappy see through holo displays from everything to signs and displays. The superior holograms of TNG just aren’t used. Weird.

That's been one of the main complaints of the TrekYards duo, and I concur with their assessment.

Heck, in VOY, they showed a future with Synaptic Transceivers.

Imagine being able to control a vessel with your brain and see through the character's mental view of what their mental UI would look like.

 

[fireproof78]

Imagine being able to control a vessel with your brain and see through the character's mental view of what their mental UI would look like.

That would drive me insane. I imagine a lot of death with it.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

What I don't understand about the transparent displays in PIC and its ilk, is that they just hang in the air. There's no surface for them to be projected against. How is this possible?

I mean, a projection of light - which is what these displays are - can't just "stop" in midair. Shouldn't that be a violation of some law of physics or something? I would think that to project any image, it would have to be projected onto something.

 

[TRON JA307020]

What I don't understand about the transparent displays in PIC and its ilk, is that they just hang in the air. There's no surface for them to be projected against. How is this possible?

I mean, a projection of light - which is what these displays are - can't just "stop" in midair. Shouldn't that be a violation of some law of physics or something? I would think that to project any image, it would have to be projected onto something.

Probably some kind of force field projection. The holograms in TNG were solid. Again the holograms are primitive 900 years in the future. It makes no sense honestly.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Moving your hands around in the air gets tiring incredibly fast.

Almost like that B5 spinoff (Legend of the Rangers) which had a ship with a weapons system powered by...punching and kicking.

Probably some kind of force field projection.

Yeah, I guess that would work. Especially with the holographic controls aboard La Sirena. You can't work the controls if there's no surface you can touch...

 

[Ronald Held]

Maybe The Burn forced the use of primitive tech not much more advanced than in PIC?

 

[fireproof78]

Or just personal preference.

 

[TRON JA307020]

Maybe The Burn forced the use of primitive tech not much more advanced than in PIC?

so they decided to go back to tech 800 years earlier? Doubtful. More like the producers have run out of ideas how to advance things. They should not have advanced discovery tech so much or even tng. But they did now they all seem to be in the same time frame. You can’t tell the difference.

 

[fireproof78]

so they decided to go back to tech 800 years earlier? Doubtful. More like the producers have run out of ideas how to advance things. They should not have advanced discovery tech so much or even tng. But they did now they all seem to be in the same time frame. You can’t tell the difference.

Since TNG no longer looks advance looking more advanced than it isn't that hard, to my mind. Overall, Trek tech doesn't advance, and I think that the current eras are all distinct enough, but carry with it the same burden all Trek tech does-it's all the same. Phasers are phasers, warp drive is warp drive, computers are computers. The variation is simply in presentation, and all serve the needs of the plot.

Look, I get it-these shows will never live up to whatever lofty ideals TNG offered to people. I don't have any aspirations for TNG type tech because it feels very lackluster. Even when Berman era Trek tried to go to the future the technology wasn't that different. Phasers, tricorders, etc.

I don't know what people expect as "more advanced" but I doubt Trek will give it.

 

[Therin of Andor]

I think it could work. LCD screens already produce headaches so having that display can't be worse.

In 1975, colour TV finally came to Australia. My grandmother complained that just seeing them in the shops, or at our place, gave her terrible headaches... until my grandfather bought one for her.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Maybe The Burn forced the use of primitive tech not much more advanced than in PIC?

The Burn didn't affect ALL technology. Only dilithium.