You haven't proved a single claim that you've made, why should she have to give you examples. Especially since you're already exposed that this thread is just an excuse to post transphobic comments and hopefully get away with it.
Prove it.
Transgenders competing in women's sports?
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The nature of competition seems to favor the exceptions rather than the rule. There are more lefties in baseball than the general population and obviously basketball players are taller than the general population. The average gymnast is a waif. The average jockey is a midget. The average female runner has an extremely narrow (aka male-like) waist-to-hip ratio compared to the general population. None of this is to disparage the hard work that goes into training but those physical deviances from the norm make a huge difference when it comes to the top 1% of performers. There are exceptions, of course, like Mookie Betts being small for a power-hitter. I find athletes like that more inspiration than those with big genetic/hormonal advantages.
If trans, statistically speaking, have a built-in genetic advantage over women, then it will encourage them to pursue sports in the same way being really tall would encourage someone to pursue basketball or being really small might encourage one to be a jockey. Once that happens, even if the total number of trans in proportion to the general population is tiny, they will start to comprise a larger and larger portion of the athletic demographic. If this happens and they start dominating women's sports, it's going to cause problems.
I mean, there's a reason boxing, for instance, separates fighters based on weight classes. When biological advantages get lopsided enough there's only so much skill can be used to compensate, otherwise it's simply not fair. And need I bring up all the past controversies over iron curtain Olympic athletes as to whether they had two X chromosomes or how much juicing they were doing?
So sure, let things go where they go, but if you think there won't be pushback from some athletes over fairness, you're living in a polyanna dreamworld.
If trans, statistically speaking, have a built-in genetic advantage over women, then it will encourage them to pursue sports in the same way being really tall would encourage someone to pursue basketball or being really small might encourage one to be a jockey. Once that happens, even if the total number of trans in proportion to the general population is tiny, they will start to comprise a larger and larger portion of the athletic demographic. If this happens and they start dominating women's sports, it's going to cause problems.
I mean, there's a reason boxing, for instance, separates fighters based on weight classes. When biological advantages get lopsided enough there's only so much skill can be used to compensate, otherwise it's simply not fair. And need I bring up all the past controversies over iron curtain Olympic athletes as to whether they had two X chromosomes or how much juicing they were doing?
So sure, let things go where they go, but if you think there won't be pushback from some athletes over fairness, you're living in a polyanna dreamworld.
I'm not making transphobic comments.
There are men that belive they are women.
I don't have a problem with that.
I do have a problem with men that are simply saying that they are women so that they can win at a sport that as a man competing against men they would be coming in last or way back in the pack.
I would hate for my female friend who is very highly ranked in her events to suddenly be out of the running because there were a couple of males that are saying they are women.
Above someone posted a video that had some information about testosterone level testing. I think that this would be a good idea at certain sporting levels.
I don't belive men should be allowed to compete against women in sports that are divided make and female.
Just as above someone said people were injecting oxygenated blood products. It cheating, men injecting steroids is cheating too.
So you’ve moved from “concern” about integrity in sports to the real agenda here. And in less than one page too!
You trivialize and mock these people right to their faces, under the pretense of fairness in sports.
It’s disgusting.
Transgender women ARE women. Ergo, they should have as much right and access to competing in women's sports as any women.
So you actually think this is a thing? I presume you have evidence to demonstrate transgender women are perpetuating a conspiracy to "conquer" women's sports? No? Well, that's ok. No one should be expected to conjure up something that isn't real. However, absent the evidence, this line of "argument" is rather asinine, isn't it? Probably best to discuss actual sports concerns.
Yes you are. Just look below.
This is transphobic. Trans women are women, we know this we can put it in science books.
That has never happened once. If a cis man did decide to transition, he would have to transition. That means lowering testosterone which would severely impact any natural ability and muscle growth. He'd risk blood clots, infertility, impotence, and permanent breast growth. I guess it's possible, much like an alien abduction, but I don't think the average cis man would even want to do this. It seems utterly absurd. But then again, I live in reality.
Although any cis male who is reading this is welcome to chime in. I've come to realize over the last few years that I have absolutely no idea how men think and I was pretty shitty at pretending to be one for a while.
Good thing that this scenario isn't real then. There are trans women, but they are women. But that's probably exactly who you're thinking of. Because you're a transphobe and believe that trans women are men who are either faking or delusional. You've implied both and you seem very confused and ignorant about the whole issue.
Well they test for steroids, but trans women wouldn't be taking them. On a hormonal level they'd be identical to a cis woman. Unless you want to spot trans women trying to pass themselves off as cis women. Although they'd need to be on hormones for years for that, so I'm not sure how testing would prove that.
Sports organizations have studied and approve of it. Good thing that rational people are in charge and not you because you have no idea of what you're even talking about.
It seems that the purpose of this thread is to undermine the validity of transgender women by expressing concern for cisgender women.
Interesting analysis. Thanks for being one of the few to stay on topic.
It's pretty clear from her language. She's not even being subtle and hiding it, it's blatant transphobia.
Still waiting on proof, not that she has any.
Thanks for the comments.
I'm out.
I'm out.
On the topic of insinuating transgender women are not "real women"? Then yes, a bang up job. I agree.
Winner!
Is there any actual proof of this, or is it just your imagination run wild?
You know, this is a bit too volatile for the main boards. People COULD talk about the actual issue which is being debated in the world of sports without getting personal or saying ugly/mean/hateful things. But noooo. Same old crap, different day.
So fuck it, I'm taking the administrator's prerogative and closing the thread.
So fuck it, I'm taking the administrator's prerogative and closing the thread.
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