News Trans character announced

[Lord Garth]

We don't know too much about these new characters.

The non-binary character is working with Discovery, if not serving on it.

The transgender character is a Trill, who Burnham and the non-binary character presumably meet on the Trill Homeworld.

According to the DSC video from Star Trek Day, we won't see these characters until the third and fourth episodes respectively.

 

[Morgan Primus]

Mods are touchy af here

Speaking personally, as someone who is a straight, white, cis guy, I never felt particularly privileged growing up. Like a lot of Star Trek fans, I was the fat dorky kid with no - or almost no - friends. When I got to be a teenager I became one of the "weird kids" who showcased my difference in my style of dress, only listening to obscure underground music, etc. And I became a vegan by age 17, and am still a vegan at age 41, meaning I've been part of a marginal minority of a sort my entire adult life. All of those things honestly felt more salient as parts of my identity than my whitness, maleness, or straightness.

But then again, that's what privilege is. It's the advantages you never even know you have, and you totally take for granted. You don't need to think about what it means to be white, or male, or straight, or cis, because all of that is taken to be the "default" - meaning it just blends into the background of life and you don't self-reflect unless you actually attempt to build real relationships with people different from yourself.

And indeed, I've never understood that brand of aggravated rage-nerd which thinks life is some sort of "pain Olympics" and that people different than themselves who have struggles in life in some way invalidate their own struggles. We are all human, we all feel pain, and we should all respect one another's feelings.

it shoudnt matter, should it?

 

[Morgan Primus]

Look here, those of you trying to make Trek political in the current timeline should all get fucked sideways with a chainsaw. Trek isn’t about your political affiliations now.

I’m Morgan and I approve this message

 

[Lord Garth]

Look here, those of you trying to make Trek political in the current timeline should all get fucked sideways with a chainsaw. Trek isn’t about your political affiliations now.

To be honest, I actually don't think DSC and PIC are anywhere near that political. The parallels to Today are very forced. If I can squint, maybe I can see it.

It seems to be more about the different takeaways people who have different politics have.

 

[Morgan Primus]

To be honest, I actually don't think DSC and PIC are anywhere near that political. The parallels to Today are very forced. If I can squint, maybe I can see it.

It seems to be more about the different takeaways people who have different politics have.

I’m referencing members reactions on this site. I’ve never seen a discovery episode and prolly never will, so i can’t comment on that

 

[Nerys Myk]

Trek has always tried to be "political" with differing degrees of success. People will always see themselves and their situations reflected in the characters.

 

[Morgan Primus]

Trek has always tried to be "political" with differing degrees of success. People will always see themselves and their situations reflected in the characters.

Right. but i’ve always distanced myself from the obvious liberal politics, and won’t let anyone use Trek for their own agenda

 

[Mudd]

Right. but i’ve always distanced myself from the obvious liberal politics, and won’t let anyone use Trek for their own agenda

You will prevent this by speaking brusquely to them, I assume.* Scattered handfuls will rally to your banner.

Look here, those of you trying to make Trek political in the current timeline should all get fucked sideways with a chainsaw. Trek isn’t about your political affiliations now.

I’m Morgan and I approve this message

It was fun while you lasted.**

*Tried it. Doesn't work.
**No, not really.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Right. but i’ve always distanced myself from the obvious liberal politics, and won’t let anyone use Trek for their own agenda

Treks agenda has always been worn on it's sleeve. It's prided it's self ( at times misplaced) on it's progressive message.

 

[Jayson1]

I think all the Trek shows are sort of going for a different audience. Discovery is basically like a CW show. Young and progressive and woke. Basically it's target audience is millennials and younger. It's basically the one trying the hardest to bring in younger newer fans who didn't grow up on Trek and also wants to be what passes for cool these days.

Picard is the serious adult one. It wants to be the "Logan" of Trek. The one that gets respect form critics and fans who have wanted Trek to get more real and serious and considers things like comics books as classical art.

The Pike show looks like it's going to be The Orville or Stranger Things of Trek. Tons of fan service and basically something aimed at older fans with nostalgia and even those older causal fans that shows don't really try and appeal to anymore except for on Network tv.

My gut feeling on the Georgiou show is it's going to be the spy/pure action series. The Alias or Le Femme Nikita of Trek. When you hire someone like Michelle Yeoh then that means you hiring someone who can kick but in martial arts and they will certainly take advantage of that making it really the first Trek that does not counting the sword stuff with the Klingons.

Lower Decks I think is aimed at young tweens. Basically a intro point show to start getting the kids into Trek at a younger age so the show will continue on even as we the current fans start getting older and fewer.

Jason

 

[Anthony60]

Nickle's worth of free advise. Granted I'm not the one who accused you of being sexist or racist, but if you don't want others to do so, then it helps to do more than to essentially just say "Burnham sucks." Explain why. And explain why you wouldn't give the same actions a pass if it were Kirk or Picard (in other words: a white male). Then people are arguing based on your explanation instead of their assumptions.

In an age where the Alt-Right has run amok and has tried so hard to vilify diversity, it's more important than ever to distinguish yourself from them.

My opinion, you just nullified your credibility with that remark about the "Alt-Right". My 2 cents.

 

[Lord Garth]

My opinion, you just nullified your credibility with that remark about the "Alt-Right". My 2 cents.

Alt-Right is not the same as just being a Conservative. That's why it's called "alt".

 

[Morgan Primus]

Treks agenda has always been worn on it's sleeve. It's prided it's self ( at times misplaced) on it's progressive message.

Trek is a liberal shitshow. Trump is it’s conservative overlord

 

[Morgan Primus]

Alt-Right is not the same as just being a Conservative. That's why it's called "alt".

Alt-right was a fake 4 and 8 chan op

 

[Nerys Myk]

Trek is a liberal shitshow. Trump is it’s conservative overlord

What?????????????

 

[Morgan Primus]

What?????????????

Yea, I said that. Trump trolls the world

 

[Nerys Myk]

Well. I'm lost.

 

[Morgan Primus]

i can’t help you, bb

 

[Nerys Myk]

You wouldn't be the first.

 

[Morgan Primus]

@Serveaux you tried, but i didn’t even notice you. go off in the corner and work on your lack of mattering, poor dear