Trailer #2 - Consolidated Discussion
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They were used to hold matter from crossing a certain point. They could have been used, but I don't recall a time where they were. In fact, there are very few instances I can think of where there were hull breaches of this type noted. I think due to not having enough money to portray large-scale destruction to either sets or believable models, TOS just didn't do much with hull breaches. I don't think it was a limitation of the tech the writers envisioned for the Trek at the time.
What was it? Not enough plywood?
Perhaps the events in Discovery will push him over the edge, he'll go crazy and turn into the TOS version on Mudd. A lot can happen in ten years.
You really wouldn't confuse this iteration of Harry Mudd for Roger C. Carmel's version, but Rainn Wilson still manages to retain the air of faux-nobility that the Mudd charatcer should have.
EDIT: I think the biggest difference is, without the broad-brimmed hat and or the handlebar mustache, this version of Mudd comes across as less of a dandy.
Hmmmm so I'll see you on premiere night when curiosity gets the better of you?
So the question is which trailer do you all prefer, STD or the new Orville trailer 
Of course. The type of fan that loves to hate and wants everyone to know it.
TrekCore has a gallery up now. Very interesting to get clear confirmation of two hair styles and at least two uniform colors on Burnham, plus another blue suit of some kind in that room with the plants. What's interesting is that in some of the shots that look like they're from the Shenzhou being attacked definitely (running around dark corridors, jumping into the shuttle) she has the natural hair style she's got when speaking with Lorca rather than the straightened one from her scenes with Georgiou.
Enterprise is a hundred years before Discovery. Plenty of generations in between. And the Empire wasn't exactly "in array" during the series.
Curly Burnham seems to be sporting Science Silver. My guess is Curly is in flashbacks.
By that logic, I should hate Into Darkness. It's my favourite of the movies. I won't be watching Discovery.
Since when does murderous intent mean someone is crazy?No, he just tried to kill people. Not crazy.
I've never seen Mudd described as crazy before. Unprincipled, selfish, even cold-blooded I guess. Not crazy.
I wish they'd crank up the brightness a bit and slow things down a triffle so I could see what the hell is going on. Maybe I am just getting old.
For the question of what looks more interesting/better/etc.: Orville or Discovery? I say Discovery hands down. I will be tuning into Orville for sure (next best thing to Galaxy Quest: The Series we will probably ever see), but neither Orville trailer really sold me that it is going to be as funny or quality as a true GQ:TS would be or as good as Orville could be, and though Orville could be an alt-universe Star Trek, Discovery looks soo much better in every way. To me.
Since things like the prime universe and alternate universe are entirely made up constructs of entirely made up shows about entirely made up people and ships and events, you're pretty much free to just say "this doesn't exist in my version of the prime universe" and enjoy it (or not enjoy it) as a standalone series based on the quality or lack thereof of the stories being told. Why add the extra baggage of caring about how it fits into some imagined continuity that doesn't actually matter?
It's not as if the existence of this eliminates the other prime universe shows retroactively, so what difference does it make? I could understand not liking the universe depicted in the trailer on its own merits, but not liking it based on how well it meshes visually and structurally with shows from two, three, and five decades ago seems silly to me. Of course it's going to look and feel and be a lot different. The world is different, television production is different, visual effects are different.
Really hope they get rid of the pop music-- it felt almost as cheesy as the Enterprise song. I honestly don't have a great feeling.
Most the trailers I've seen for new TV and film projects have used pop music. It's a thing now. Doesn't mean it will actually be in the show.
The best of Star Trek has always been from it's TV series, and not the movies. And all the series were different from each other, and all the series played loosey goosey with canon. To expect anything different from a new TV series is just plain silly. And to expect to approve and love every single aspect of the new show is not just silly, but madness, and putting way to much pressure on your own viewing enjoyment. I've criticized some aspects of what I've seen so far, but nothing I've seen keeps me from waiting anxiously for the premier. That's what counts, is the actual show itself, not a few random clips that in all likely hood have little to do with each other when we see them in the show.
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