Trailer #2 - Consolidated Discussion

[GhostLoveScore]

Ah, I only saw The Cage once. I probably should watch it again.

 

[Noname Given]

When you change the in-universe tech, you are changing the story. Are you going to be able to buy Spock's tricorder not being able to play back images without the Enterprise computer after seeing what this tech does in comparison?

^^^
To be fair - what you're talking about is from "City on the Edge of Forever" - and remember the recordings Spock was making were of the Guardian playing back human history at a VERY accelerated rate. Yes, Spock could play this speeded up images as they were originally recorded on his Tricorder - (and Spock did so on the planet to guesstimate when Kirk and Spock should jump to end up in the same era as McCoy - BUT to fully analyze and compare and contrast the changes to see exactly what the change McCoy made - yes he needed a more powerful computing platform (and did manage to create one with 1930ies tech.)

 

[RAMA]

The second pic shows the Shenzhou. I can tell because I already own a model of her.

I only labeled one Europa

 

[BillJ]

^^^
To be fair - what you're talking about is from "City on the Edge of Forever" - and remember the recordings Spock was making were of the Guardian playing back human history at a VERY accelerated rate. Yes, Spock could play this speeded up images as they were originally recorded on his Tricorder - (and Spock did so on the planet to guesstimate when Kirk and Spock should jump to end up in the same era as McCoy - BUT to fully analyze and compare and contrast the changes to see exactly what the change McCoy made - yes he needed a more powerful computing platform (and did manage to create one with 1930ies tech.)

It is something the iPhone can do now. In multiple ways.

This is starting to feel like an episode of Hoarders, where people are hanging onto stuff for no other reason than its always been there.

 

[Tuskin38]

I only labeled one Europa

The way the post was formatted made it look like you were labelling two sets of images.
My bad. (I know you were not responding to me, but I said the same thing)

 

[Romulan_spy]

It was a bit too confusing and incoherent for me to really get very excited. Plus I'm not a fan of pseudo-philosophical Hollywood-deep voice-overs like "Up is down, down is up, blabla". I would've liked to just see more of the crew and their interaction and a bit less action.
But then again I think I'm just not a fan of trailers in general. :P

But it did look good and worked better than the first one.

Discovery looks good. Story seems interesting too. But the trailer feels too much like what every trailer is nowadays: super fast paced shots with modern music and vague philosophical babble to sound mysterious.

 

[RAMA]

 

[RAMA]

Last bunch for now:

 

[fireproof78]

It's definitely cinematic, I'll give them that! Incoherent but cinematic. At least the visuals are stunning.

What was incoherent about? Did I miss something?

 

[Kemaiku]

So...

Harry Mudd finds derelict ship, tries to salvage.
Ship isn't ancient at all, but more of a Botany Bay for a Klingon House that destabilised the Empire.
Federation and Klingons pick up the ship is active and rush to it.
Europa is destroyed, Shenzhou (opening with a mission with her at the desert world picking up readings) damaged.
Discovery, a prototype ship of some sort, rescues who they can.
Random conflict, Mudd not caring what side wins.
Conflict between the Federation that becomes all out war in TOS season 1 begins?

 

[JTL]

I still think its Temporal Agent Lorca.

Also, why did the Europa ram/crash into the Klingon iceberg ship?

 

[wayoung]

Cool trailer. I likes it. Made the show look very accessible, kinda got an expanse vibe from the cinematography and lighting. Seems like going with someone not in charge is letting them focus a lot more on what makes a leader and personal indecisiveness, which, other than in drug induced/private moments, we never got from the other leads, who were all presented as super confident decision makers.

 

[Kemaiku]

The escape pod clip is her, so I assume the ship is crippled and they leave, causing it to drift into the Klingon cruiser.

When Mudd warns them about something about to explode he means they're awfully close to the collision. Why the Shenzou isn't moving off I don't know.

 

[Jax]

The CGI for the ships especially the combat scenes looks bad and so computerised, am getting SW PT vibes. The cinematic approach has an epic nature, which suits Star Trek perfectly but the story so far doesn't like feel Star Trek. I so want to like the show but I just can't feel excited for it.

Maybe the show TOS era setting is throwing me off as it's the part of Trek that I am least knowledgeable about. I am watching it on Netflix at the moment for the 1st time since I was a kid.

 

[In Thy Image]

Is it my imagination or is Burnham's hair totally different in different scenes? It might be a minor point, but it must have been done on purpose.

 

[Tuskin38]

getting SW PT vibes

Maybe you should rewatch the PT, it doesn't look that bad at all.

Also, why did the Europa ram/crash into the Klingon iceberg ship?

I think it was cloaked. There was some sort of Green ripple, though that might have been the shields.

 

[BillJ]

I really like what I am seeing. It feels like Star Trek. I am also very comfortable treating it as a reboot/alternate timeline based on what I've seen.

 

[Tuskin38]

Forcefields of the kind seen here are the stuff of TNG and VOY

We saw Forcefields 3 times in TOS, don't see why they couldn't work like they do in this trailer.

 

[{ Emilia }]

I am also very comfortable treating it as a reboot/alternate timeline based on what I've seen.

Not this again...

Please discuss the trailer and let us not turn this thread into another timeline conversation.

 

[ELURIA]

My first thought was: Yes, looks they're showing Sonequa Martin-Green's real hair after all!

Totally a major issue, right? Better than the whitified style.

In the future, people won't care what "ethnicity" their hair is and just be fabulous