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I prefer to look at the world the way it is, rather than engage in sentimentality about women still being attractive all their lives.


It's sad, but age takes its toll. None of us will look as good in our forties and fifties than we will in our late teens or early twenties.
Rubbish. Tell that to Angie Dickinson, Raquel Welch, Kim Cattrall, Jacqueline Bisset, or Lauren Hutton. They all looked their best when they were in their forties.

YMMV.
 
I prefer to look at the world the way it is, rather than engage in sentimentality about women still being attractive all their lives.


It's sad, but age takes its toll. None of us will look as good in our forties and fifties than we will in our late teens or early twenties.
Rubbish. Tell that to Angie Dickinson, Raquel Welch, Kim Cattrall, Jacqueline Bisset, or Lauren Hutton. They all looked their best when they were in their forties.

YMMV.

May I add Sandra Bullock, 47, and Helen Mirren, 66.
Film star Halle Berry is also a member of the 40-plus club. On TV, the majority of the "Desperate Housewives" female leads are nearing 50, while Emmy Award-winning Julianna Margulies of "The Good Wife" is 44. Kyra Sedgwick of "The Closer" is 44; and Marg Helgenberger of "CSI: Crime Scene Investigation is 52.
 
I prefer to look at the world the way it is, rather than engage in sentimentality about women still being attractive all their lives.


It's sad, but age takes its toll. None of us will look as good in our forties and fifties than we will in our late teens or early twenties.
Rubbish. Tell that to Angie Dickinson, Raquel Welch, Kim Cattrall, Jacqueline Bisset, or Lauren Hutton. They all looked their best when they were in their forties.

YMMV.

May I add Sandra Bullock, 47, and Helen Mirren, 66.
Film star Halle Berry is also a member of the 40-plus club. On TV, the majority of the "Desperate Housewives" female leads are nearing 50, while Emmy Award-winning Julianna Margulies of "The Good Wife" is 44. Kyra Sedgwick of "The Closer" is 44; and Marg Helgenberger of "CSI: Crime Scene Investigation is 52.





Sandra Bullock still looks okay, but she's not nearly as hot as she was in "Speed."

I think it's ridiculous to argue the point that people look better in their forties than they do in their twenties(again, barring exceptions related to weight, surgery, etc.)

this is simple biology.

I guess it is YMMV if you have some kind of "older women" preference thing going, but to me none of those either of you mentioned look BETTER now than when they were much younger.
 
Rubbish. Tell that to Angie Dickinson, Raquel Welch, Kim Cattrall, Jacqueline Bisset, or Lauren Hutton. They all looked their best when they were in their forties.

YMMV.

May I add Sandra Bullock, 47, and Helen Mirren, 66.
Film star Halle Berry is also a member of the 40-plus club. On TV, the majority of the "Desperate Housewives" female leads are nearing 50, while Emmy Award-winning Julianna Margulies of "The Good Wife" is 44. Kyra Sedgwick of "The Closer" is 44; and Marg Helgenberger of "CSI: Crime Scene Investigation is 52.





Sandra Bullock still looks okay, but she's not nearly as hot as she was in "Speed."

I think it's ridiculous to argue the point that people look better in their forties than they do in their twenties(again, barring exceptions related to weight, surgery, etc.)

this is simple biology.

I guess it is YMMV if you have some kind of "older women" preference thing going, but to me none of those either of you mentioned look BETTER now than when they were much younger.


It's a matter of taste, not fact, that a woman/girl that's 20 is better looking then one that's 40. There's no biology involved. Lots of men, even very young men,find a woman that's 20 girly looking, while they consider a woman that's 40 more feminine looking. Like you said, that's also a matter of ymmv.
 
May I add Sandra Bullock, 47, and Helen Mirren, 66.
Film star Halle Berry is also a member of the 40-plus club. On TV, the majority of the "Desperate Housewives" female leads are nearing 50, while Emmy Award-winning Julianna Margulies of "The Good Wife" is 44. Kyra Sedgwick of "The Closer" is 44; and Marg Helgenberger of "CSI: Crime Scene Investigation is 52.





Sandra Bullock still looks okay, but she's not nearly as hot as she was in "Speed."

I think it's ridiculous to argue the point that people look better in their forties than they do in their twenties(again, barring exceptions related to weight, surgery, etc.)

this is simple biology.

I guess it is YMMV if you have some kind of "older women" preference thing going, but to me none of those either of you mentioned look BETTER now than when they were much younger.


It's a matter of taste, not fact, that a woman/girl that's 20 is better looking then one that's 40. There's no biology involved. Lots of men, even very young men,find a woman that's 20 girly looking, while they consider a woman that's 40 more feminine looking. Like you said, that's also a matter of ymmv.


it is a matter of taste, but there is biology involved if you believe that evolution plays a role in attraction.


a woman of 20-25 has a much better chance of having healthy babies than a woman of 40-45.

if you buy into the whole "men and women look for partners based on criteria which make sense from an evolutionary perspective" thing, then this might be why most men prefer younger women.


(I am NOT saying the only reason to look for a woman is if you think she'll provide you health babies)
 
it is a matter of taste, but there is biology involved if you believe that evolution plays a role in attraction.


a woman of 20-25 has a much better chance of having healthy babies than a woman of 40-45.
I thought this discussion was about physical attractiveness? Your statement above appears to move the discussion away from physical attractiveness to desirability as a (child bearing) mate. The two are not the same. No doubt we've all run across women (or men) who we find physically attractive but not desirable as a mate. And conversely, I'm sure we've all run across those who we may feel would make great mates but you don't find physically attractive enough to make a move on.

BTW, your effort to prove that younger women are more attractive than older women has been quite amusing. However, perhaps you should have stopped after "it is a matter of taste," in the first sentence in your post above.
 
it is a matter of taste, but there is biology involved if you believe that evolution plays a role in attraction.


a woman of 20-25 has a much better chance of having healthy babies than a woman of 40-45.
I thought this discussion was about physical attractiveness? Your statement above appears to move the discussion away from physical attractiveness to desirability as a (child bearing) mate. The two are not the same. No doubt we've all run across women (or men) who we find physically attractive but not desirable as a mate. And conversely, I'm sure we've all run across those who we may feel would make great mates but you don't find physically attractive enough to make a move on.

BTW, your effort to prove that younger women are more attractive than older women has been quite amusing. However, perhaps you should have stopped after "it is a matter of taste," in the first sentence in your post above.


thanks for the patronizing suggestion.

I said biology plays a role in attraction, I wasn't trying to "prove" anything.

you think there's NO connection between what we find attractive and what we look for in a mate?


that's absurd.
 
Hookay, let's all take a breath. For a bunch of folks who keep pointing out that "it's all a matter of taste," you do appear to be trying to tell each other what to consider attractive.

Kindly dispense with all the "silly" and "ridiculous" and "absurd" and "patronizing" declarations and keep in mind that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, okay? You have different opinions. Variety makes the discussion board go 'round. Appreciate what you find attractive, and let others do so as well. :) It's all good.

I'm one of those who thinks Jolene is beautiful, and there are many women I consider attractive who, in my opinion, have grown more beautiful with age. To me, Jane Seymour looked far lovelier in her 40's as "Dr. Quinn" than she did at 20 as a Bond girl, though her beauty then was still breathtaking. When I am her age, if I look a tenth as good as she does now, I will be deliriously happy.
 
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What happen to T'Pol's eyebrows in season 3 and 4. In season 1 and 2 the made up eyebrows followed her natural eyebrow line. In seasons 3 and 4 the made up eyebrows got straighter which left a portion of her natural eyebrows visible under the make up. Who made that decision I wonder.
 
that was a body double for Jolene Blalock in Harbringer, I asked Connor Trineer about that scene at a Q&A a few years back
As a matter of on-going accumulation of Star Trek trivia, did you happen to get the name of the stand in?

:)
 
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