T'Pol
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Nah. What the movie really needs is Porthos, who was infected by a strange technobabble virus and evolved to the next stage of puppy evolution - a giant galaxy-swallowing space monster!
But seriously, this film isn't 'Appreciation Fest For People Who Created Starfleet'. This is an adventure with Kirk, Spock and the gang.
But seriously, this film isn't 'Appreciation Fest For People Who Created Starfleet'. This is an adventure with Kirk, Spock and the gang.
Exactly.
Much as I'd like to see an acknowledgement of ENT and of T'Pol, Trek XI should be a clean start, making no reference to anything but TOS. That includes the Nimoy scenes. With any luck they'll take place on Vulcan with no reference to anything TNG-related.
Nothing against the spin-offs, but considering the mandate of the film is to relaunch the franchise, they can't do it by making reference to the other shows or films. If Trek XI hits and the franchise get's its transfusion, then later productions can make the link, if they so choose.
I keep comparing Trek XI to the revival of Doctor Who, and this is completely intentional. The producers of that show have done almost everything right in relaunching that franchise -- including the fact that the writers did not hit the (new) viewers over the head with all the different jargon phrase and concepts that had been established in the franchise over the years. It took until the start of the 3rd revival season before the Doctor's home planet was named on screen again, for example.
Trek XI should focus on telling a good story first and foremost, even if it means omitting any link to any of the other aspects of the franchise. Save that for Trek XII.
Cheers!
Alex
Exactly. TOS and only TOS should be the frame of reference. If it's relevant to the story, okay. If it's not, then don't bother. Any reference, just like in nuDW, should only be made if it helps move the story and is part of the story.
As I've said before, if it has a captain named Kirk, a Vulcan named Spock, a cynical doctor named Bones, a ship called Enterprise and a good, rip-roaring story, then to hell with everything else.
Trek XI should acknowledge no continuity beyond TOS. I'm not kidding. I don't even like the idea of Nimoy--since tainted with a bunch of lackluster movies and a truly awful TNG two-parter--being involved.
I can't say I wholly disagree with that sentiment. As much as I think it's cool at that Nimoy is back in the game for (and let's be honest) the last time, doesn't mean that it's entirely a good idea. If they're going to do a reboot, fuck it, do a reboot, take the hit in the fanbase (and come one, again let's be honest, for all the bitching and moaning, the actual drop in fans would not be as large as some like to claim) and be done with it. Start with a clean slate and no baggage from ANY of the other series.
I don't understand this reasoning. We should acknowledge no continuity past the original series, which includes ignoring the original cast movies and a member of the original cast? Why?
Because involving Nimoy means involving 24th century continuity, i.e. Spock's messianic/apostolic sojourn on Romulus. This would, no doubt, thrill a great many people on this board. I'm just not one of them. I don't expect XI to come out and say none of the movies, TNG, DS9, VOY or ENT ever happened, I'd just prefer it if it didn't mention it. I'd also prefer it if we don't get a time travel the story right out of the gate.
But that's just a grumpy old man's opinion. And BTW, didn't I tell you already to get off my lawn?
Perhaps. But we'll soon find out.
