TOS original or Remastered, which is canon?

[Dukhat]

Currently, 'canon' consists of the active franchise and upon what it relies.. which consists of only the material present within the 2009 movie.

Or more accurately, everything seen on screen before is canon until the new people in charge of the franchise declare that it's not anymore.

The thing is, the new people in charge not only did not declare that all past Trek series/movies aren't canon anymore, they went on record to say that the prime universe still exists and is doing fine despite the fact that there's a new universe that their stories will take place in. I believe that was the whole point of the time-traveling aspect of ST'09, rather than just claiming that it's a complete reboot. If not, then there'd be no need for Old Spock.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Canon is just the collected works designated as "official" by those in charge. (CBS and Paramount). Currenty thats the films and TV shows. So that Ds9 novel, not canon. All you're gonna do when writing that novel is make sure the continuity matches what was shown on the TV show

 

[Merky]

Canon is just the collected works designated as "official" by those in charge. (CBS and Paramount). Currenty thats the films and TV shows. So that Ds9 novel, not canon. All you're gonna do when writing that novel is make sure the continuity matches what was shown on the TV show

This.

they went on record to say that the prime universe still exists and is doing fine despite the fact that there's a new universe that their stories will take place in.

They probably did that to avoid all the manchildren wank they would have received. It would have far outweighed the wank recieved about Kirk's eye color.

 

[Ssosmcin]

Canon: every episode and movie in the Star Trek Universe ever made and sold by Paramount, no matter how many effects have been tweaked, no matter how many contridictions are there, real or imagined, no matter how shitty an episode or movie may have been.

Not canon: everything else.

Who cares? None if it happened in real life anyway. Do people have these discussions about CSI? Cripes. Just enjoy the individual episodes and don't stress about the shit outside a particular episode. Why make it more stressful to watch TV?

I wanna know which MLK story Nichelle Nicholls told is canon...

 

[Vance]

Do people have these discussions about CSI? Cripes.

Yes.

Now go look up a Lost fan page.

 

[number6]

I wanna know which MLK story Nichelle Nicholls told is canon...

The remastered version.

 

[Merky]

Do people have these discussions about CSI? Cripes.

Yes.

Now go look up a Lost fan page.

Or a Heroes message board.

Though, this is more interesting than a ship battle over which is more canon, Kirk/Spock or Spock/Uhura.

 

[Haggis and tatties]

Whatever version you personally like, the BR release offers them all, from remastered to original, to mono or stereo sound...its all there.

 

[Dukhat]

They probably did that to avoid all the manchildren wank they would have received.

Received by whom? A bunch of internet nerds? Who cares what they think?

 

[Merky]

They probably did that to avoid all the manchildren wank they would have received.

Received by whom? A bunch of internet nerds? Who cares what they think?

Not many.

Until they start protesting the movie and not see it

 

[Nerys Myk]

They probably did that to avoid all the manchildren wank they would have received.

Received by whom? A bunch of internet nerds? Who cares what they think?

Not many.

Until they start protesting the movie and not see it

Nah, thats never a significant demographic.

 

[The Laughing Vulcan]

Saw my first Remastered today.

Turned on CBS Action and they were showing the last episode of DS9, saw that it was followed up by The Cage remastered, and a whole morning of TOS.

The episode started... saw that it was widescreen, cropped top and bottom. Stuck around for the first CG effect, and then turned it off. CG remastering I can take, but lack of OAR = megafail.

So is widescreen TOS canon?

 

[Captain Robert April]

The part that they didn't crop is still canon.

 

[BillJ]

The episode started... saw that it was widescreen, cropped top and bottom.

How was the picture quality?

 

[The Laughing Vulcan]

The episode started... saw that it was widescreen, cropped top and bottom.

How was the picture quality?

It's an SD satellite channel, so crap...

 

[Haggis and tatties]

Saw my first Remastered today.

Turned on CBS Action and they were showing the last episode of DS9, saw that it was followed up by The Cage remastered, and a whole morning of TOS.

The episode started... saw that it was widescreen, cropped top and bottom. Stuck around for the first CG effect, and then turned it off. CG remastering I can take, but lack of OAR = megafail.

So is widescreen TOS canon?

Is their any widescreen TOS, the BR release i have has black bars down both sides of the TV as its shown in its original 4.3 format, but they do not in any way detract from your viewing pleasure.

 

[Merky]

There's no widescreen TOS. Even on the DVDs, its played in the 4:3 format with the bars on the side.

 

[MANT!]

Perhaps it's the setting of his TV set that has provided him with the illusion of widescreen... One needs to see it on a HDTV in standard mode with 4:3 Squeeze engaged..

 

[Captain Robert April]

There are also some broadcast prints out there cropped to look like widescreen, mainly seen in Japan. Apparently, some pinhead programming execs didn't think the old episodes, even jazzed up with new FX, would be as readily accepted unless they looked like they were in panoramic widescreen.

Probably the same morons who insisted that all the Austrailian dialogue in "Mad Max" needed to be dubbed by American voice actors....

 

[Tallifer]

Being a Whovian as well as a Trekkie, I have always been quite liberal when it comes to canon. For me everything good counts: television episodes, remastered episodes, movies, cartoons, comics, novels, radio plays (are there radio plays for Star Trek? There are hundreds of them for Doctor Who.)