TOS Movie Rewatch

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies I-X' started by urbandefault, Aug 7, 2016.

  1. urbandefault

    urbandefault Commodore Commodore

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    I started today from the beginning, looking to recapture my original experience. I'll update as I go.

    The Motion Picture:
    The Director's Edition, much better than what I remembered from 1979, and i loved it then. All the criticism of pace and everything else modern audiences dislike, are just perfect for me. This is the Star Trek I waited for in the desert that was the 1970s. The Enterprise was absolutely gorgeous.

    The Wrath of Khan:
    I didn't then, and I still don't, understand Khan's wig. Everything else is just perfect. Spock's death is heartwrenching, and you can see it in the cast's faces.

    The Search for Spock:
    When Kirk opens the door and sees Sarek, the look on his face is priceless. That's acting, right there. Robin Curtis is hot. McCoy dealing with the alien has me in stitches every time. The "stealing the Enterprise" sequence is one of my favorites. Kruge's lines crack me up, because I always hear Doc Brown. "DROP ALL WEAPONS!"

    The Voyage Home:
    My favorite. It's Star Trek as I imagine they would have done it on TV if they'd had the budget. It's the closest to original Trek, with minimal (apparent) SFX, and more character work. And then there's the part where Kirk and crew save the day. "One damn minute, Admiral."

    Next installment coming soon.
     
  2. urbandefault

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    The Final Frontier:
    I don't get the hate for this movie. It's a lot of fun, with some great character moments. Simon Pegg must have based some of his Scotty on how Doohan plays him here. The 78 deck thing never bothered me. I don't think I really noticed it until it was pointed out on a forum like this one. The rocks shooting out of the ground, creating an arena for the "audience" with the alien, is much better than the rock monsters could ever have been. "What does 'God' need with a starship?" is a classic Kirk line, as well as McCoy's "You don't ask the Almighty for his ID."

    The Undiscovered Country:
    This is a great sendoff for the crew. I like David Warner and was glad to see him back, and I absolutely love Kurtwood Smith as the Prez. More good character stuff, too. McCoy's "What is it with you?" cracks me up. The ships are beautiful, even the Excelsior (which is not necessarily one of my favorite designs). No matter what others think of Valeris, I like the character.

    In the wake of negative criticism of Beyond, which I liked a lot, I'm glad I went back and watched these movies again. It's made me appreciate the K-verse movies that much more. Over and out. :cool:
     
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  3. Balok's Decoy

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    Agree (although I came to TMP much later, since I was born in 88). I've never seen the Director's Edition. Is it significantly different?

    Reminds me of Ghostbusters. "If someone asks if you're a god you say YES!" TFF is really not as bad as people remember it. It's a hell of a lot better than Insurrection and Nemesis, if you ask me.

    Kirk's final monologue and the Enterprise sailing off into the sunset makes me cry about as hard as Spock's death. It is such a perfect finale.
     
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    And you remind me of McCoy's earlier comment: "Once, just once, I'd like to be able to land someplace and say, 'Behold, I am the Archangel Gabriel.'"
     
  5. Paradise City

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    Two likes for respecting TSFS and TFF. I think those films are underrated and with TSFS I just don't know why that is.

    And Mark Lenard superbly bookends both TSFS and TVH. Very rich scenes with him.
     
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  6. Smellmet

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    It is, yes. There's several new effects shots - vger attacking the enterprise, the hull walk sequence at the end has new and much improved effects, you also see more of the vger vessel too. There's a couple of other minor bits like being able to see the warp nacelles through the window where kirk, spock and bones meet. The film has also been edited a little tighter. Some of the the dialogue from the SLV doesn't make the cut, but I think it's an excellent version of the film. I just wish we could have a blu ray release.
     
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  7. Vger23

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    I agree with urbankringle. They really are ALL very enjoyable movies with a certain magic and style all their own. For all the criticism and examinations we fans tend to give these films...they are all (yes...ALL) quite good.
     
  8. Vger23

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    I would highly recommend that you check out the Director's Edition. It is very interesting, especially if you have any fascination whatsoever with TMP. It is a tighter, more "complete" film than the theatrical version (although I love that version just as much) and the new sound mix and some of the new visual effects are worth it.
     
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  9. Balok's Decoy

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    I definitely have a fascination with TMP. I'll have to pick up the director's edition on eBay or something. Thanks!
     
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  10. Leto_II

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    ^ It's by far the definitive version of the film, far superior to the 1979 theatrical version simply for the additional character-development alone.
     
  11. Mojochi

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    When all the scrutinizing & criticizing is said & done, I can still sit through any of them, front to back, any time at all. That says something, & I'd like to believe it isn't just the fact that I'm a fan. When these people get together & put on the Star Trek show, it's one of those things that even when it isn't all that great, it's still good to be getting some.
     
  12. urbandefault

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    It's like sex. Or pizza. :techman:
     
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  13. Mojochi

    Mojochi Commodore Commodore

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    lol I was going to say that but chickened out. hahaha
     
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    The Excelsior Class is one of my fav Trek starships.

    As for the Undiscovered Country, they really dropped the ball by not making Chekov Sulu's 1st officer and then involving them more.