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Too much Klingon dialogue with subtitles makes me sleepy

Speaking of accents, I'm impressed by how Lorca is able to speak effortlessly in a thick American accent. I can't even imagine how one is able to change an accent by such a degree.
 
The Klingons are by far the shows weakest element imo.

The slow method of talk combined with the subtitles and I tune out when they come on. I hope they focus less and less on that story line.

The death scene at the end of the second episode was jarring for me. That Tukuvma guy or how ever it's spelled was giving his death speech. I could not help but keep noticing the bad makeup and clumsy costume. His face all puffed out and all emotion removed by the heavy make up.

I think back to DS9 and those Klingons had visible emotions. These have so much botox like makeup you can't tell what they are feeling.
 
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The death scene at the end of the second episode was jarring for me. That Tukuvma guy or how ever it's spelled was giving his death speech. I could not help but keep noticing the bad makeup and clumsy costume. His face all puffed out and all emotion removed by the heavy make up.

The director should be ashamed for such bad camera angle.
 
It always annoyed me that a room full of Klingons would talk among themselves in English. So I'm really happy to see them speak Klingon for a change.

I hope that when we finally see a universal translator in use, its as seen in Star Trek Beyond where we hear the original speech overlaid with computer-voice English. That's how it should always be.
Beyond nailed the UT, in my opinion, and it worked extremely well. It should be the standard, I agree.

Speaking of accents, I'm impressed by how Lorca is able to speak effortlessly in a thick American accent. I can't even imagine how one is able to change an accent by such a degree.
Did you not watch House or Hugh Jackson as Wolverine?
 
I am a fan of the way how these Klingons communicate to each other, very alien and intriguing IMO. I sensed plenty of emotion and expression of mood despite the heavy prosthetics, the same way you can sense emotion from speaking on a telephone or listening to the radio.

With exception of perhaps 4-5 Klingon characters in TOS/TNG era - a classic Klingon would bleet on about honour whilst in one of the following states of mind:

- Contempt (Snarling, smirking or laughing in utter sarcasm)
- Rage (Snarling, smirking or laughing in utter sarcasm)

Discovery is making a decent stab at portraying the Klingons as a credible living and breathing race that can threaten the protagonists. I don't for one second feel safe for the crew of the Discovery, and the mention of the 'Son of None' devouring a Starfleet captain just adds a psychological spanner in the works for them.
 
Discovery is making a decent stab at portraying the Klingons as a credible living and breathing race that can threaten the protagonists. I don't for one second feel safe for the crew of the Discovery, and the mention of the 'Son of None' devouring a Starfleet captain just adds a psychological spanner in the works for them.

I'm not getting this at all. My overall impression is that it's a random group of lizards in dresses standing motionless talking for twenty minutes.
 
Are some people really incapable of viewing something while reading subtitles? I’ve never had an issue with it watching undubbed foreign films and I don’t have one now.
 
Klingons speaking English when not around humans was one of the silliest Trek tropes. It’s like those old war movies where the Nazis speak in English accents. It’s just for lazy audience members.
 
Or when a foreigner would speak perfect English but would forget how to say yes or no.

Ja, you're being much too presumptuous!

Nyet, nothing is inevitable!
 
Hugh Laurie and Hugh Jackman do a fine job covering their British and Australian accents, respectively.

I'm not getting this at all. My overall impression is that it's a random group of lizards in dresses standing motionless talking for twenty minutes.
That's racist.

Klingons are modeled off of insects, not lizards.
Are some people really incapable of viewing something while reading subtitles? I’ve never had an issue with it watching undubbed foreign films and I don’t have one now.
Don't go to the opera.
 
The Klingon scenes drag, period. Hopefully Frakes will speed things up when he has his turn behind the camera. He has great pacing when he directs.
 
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The Klingon scenes drag, period. Hopefully Frakes will speed things up when he has his turn behind the camera. He has great pacing when he directs.

Mr Frakes is a smart man, he will preserve Discovery's image and pace as it clearly is working in modern TV.

With all the competition out there, there is no earthly way someone is going to regress the new Trek show into the stale form it was back in 1997.
 
Mr Frakes is a smart man, he will preserve Discovery's image and pace as it clearly is working in modern TV.

With all the competition out there, there is no earthly way someone is going to regress the new Trek show into the stale form it was back in 1997.
You misunderstand me. I am extremely pleased with the new show, and I have no interest in it being a remake of an older show (which was also good). But the pacing of the Klingon scenes really is lethargic.

I don't know if they're going for a "Borgias" type of drama with them but whatever it is, at least Voq has finally made it off the Satellite of Love or whatever that ship is.
 
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There's too much subtitles with Klingon talk. It's been well established in the star trek universe that we should hear them in English thanks to the universal translators. Once in a while they'll have alittle Klingon talk like during Kirk's trial in Star Trek 6 but then they switch to English for the sake of the audience. Reading subtitles for large portions of the episode makes it drag. Plus these Klingons sound like whiney children when they try to speak in Klingon. Why are they doing this to us? Trying to appeal to the people that own the Klingon dictionaries or what?

The butchers ( CBS) knife cares not for the fans cries!!!!

Marble mouthed Klingons. They need to start speaking English.

Here is my Klingon impression, read it as slowly as possible: "Muk tuk tuk tuk muk tuk t'kuvma muk tuk tuk tuk tuk tuk tuk muk tuk t'kuvma e'duck muk tuk tuk muk t'kuvma tuk tuk muk'
 
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