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TNG DVDs being "discontinued by the manufacturer"

It is not the job of the customer to adapt to what the seller wants to sell.

Actually, yes, it is.

Paramount can sell whatever DVDs or Blu-Rays it wants. The consumers can buy, or not buy, them. That's the end of it, really.

If Paramount thought that standard DVD versions of TNG-R would sell, then by definition, they'd make them. The fact that they have not, means that Paramount considers any money they might make from it, not worth the expense incurred in making them. That is how every corporation (that sells products) operates. It's not arrogance, it's business.
so you don't think that them having a captive audience in trek fans and that they can keep justifying the inflated price by reformatting a decades old tv show has nothing to do with it?
 
Wasn't there a time (until fairly) recently that films came out in both pan and scan and widescreen?

I can't help but laugh at those poor suckers that bought pan and scan. Those poor bastards might have hundreds of useless coasters right now! :lol:

Maybe, unless they have the DVD/BR or TV display it in WS.

Thinking about how smushed the video would look makes me ill. :eek:

I knew that getting widescreen was the way to go when it started coming out on dvd. Widescreen tvs have completely taken over the square tvs right now, even quicker than how Bluray is starting to replace dvd.

They really should have never started releasing movies on dvd in pan and scan in the first place.
 
In the US at least, the "average Joe" does have a high def TV. I read just the other day on (I think Engadget) that 75% of US homes have a HDTV...which is not that surprising to me (not intending to sound arrogant).

It's not arrogant. AFAIK, standard definition TVs are not even being manufactured anymore. I certainly haven't seen them on shelves in a good long while. So as older TVs break down, the only option to replace them will be HDTVs.
 
In the US at least, the "average Joe" does have a high def TV. I read just the other day on (I think Engadget) that 75% of US homes have a HDTV...which is not that surprising to me (not intending to sound arrogant).

It's not arrogant. AFAIK, standard definition TVs are not even being manufactured anymore. I certainly haven't seen them on shelves in a good long while. So as older TVs break down, the only option to replace them will be HDTVs.
actually electronic stores have been suffering the last couple years because everyone has replaced their tv and tv sales have kept them in the black for the last decade.

but still, I have an hd tv and blueray and don't really care if I'm watching dvd or br
 
I can't help but laugh at those poor suckers that bought pan and scan. Those poor bastards might have hundreds of useless coasters right now! :lol:

Maybe, unless they have the DVD/BR or TV display it in WS.

Thinking about how smushed the video would look makes me ill. :eek:

I knew that getting widescreen was the way to go when it started coming out on dvd. Widescreen tvs have completely taken over the square tvs right now, even quicker than how Bluray is starting to replace dvd.

They really should have never started releasing movies on dvd in pan and scan in the first place.

It was more like almost a decade ago when WS TV's started to become the norm.
 
But why would anyone want this? Re-release the BD's later at a reduced cost and patrons can watch on their SD sets if required!

Because 70% of the developed world is yet to upgrade to Blu-ray.
I guess this is the point I'm trying to make. Those who don't own a BD player can make a small investment right now enabling them to enjoy and benefit from the format on their existing displays immediately - while simultaneously "future proofing" themselves.

The only Blu-Ray player I own is my PS3, and I don't own any blu-rays. I just don't like them. I only have SD TV's, I don't like hD stuff, so they're just inconvienient. Personally, I won't buy blu-rays until DVD's are discontinued, and I don't think thats going to happen anytime soon.
 
Not doubting your word, but do you have any links to back that up with? I often find this kind of "throwaway" remark comes from those who simply have no interest in new technology (fair enough of course) and have no solid comparative experience to base it on.
I think people who have an interest and appreciation of things make the assumption that everyone cares the same amount as they do.

Personally, I greatly appreciate good image quality and would choose Blu-ray every time, but I've seen so many people that just don't care, or don't know any different, or can't see what I'm talking about. I've shown my parents HD movies and even convinced them to get a Blu-ray player, but they don't seem bothered by it. They'll quite happily watch DVDs instead. They've got HD channels with their satellite package but usually go for the SD version instead because it's more convenient. I change it for them when I go around there but they don't seem to care. They often say "it doesn't look much different". I've seen people watching SD content on an HDTV because they've got the wrong cable and hadn't even noticed. I've seen people's displays with the settings all screwed up, brightness and sharpness on maximum eye-melting settings. I've been round family's houses and watched movies with frame interpolation on maximum and wondered why nobody else noticed it looked like a soap opera. I've even seen people with widescreen HD TVs watching SD 4:3 content, stretched to fit so everyone looks squashed, and not even noticed anything wrong! Even my own wife, who I would hope has picked up at least some of my picture obsession by now, still often doesn't notice when aspect ratios are wrong. I can say to her "don't you see that? Can you not tell how everyone looks the wrong width?" until I'm blue in the face; she just shrugs and calls me sad when I'm compelled to 'correct' it.

In short, then - anecdotal evidence suggests that most people don't give a flying fig about image quality, and the minority of us who do are just picky nerds. Blu-ray is for picky nerds. Accept it. :techman:


If Paramount thought that standard DVD versions of TNG-R would sell, then by definition, they'd make them. The fact that they have not, means that Paramount considers any money they might make from it, not worth the expense incurred in making them.
Your second point doesn't logically follow from the first. The fact that they wouldn't make money making the DVDs doesn't mean that nobody would buy them - it means nobody would be willing to pay enough money for them to make it worth doing, compared to other more lucrative options. That's not a lack of consumer interest, that's the company choosing money over consumer interest.
Which, y'know, is fair enough.
 
No, there are plenty of reasons consumers may choose to "deliberately forgo" Blu-Ray for now.

I'm sure the same was said when LPs gave way to CDs. I collect movie soundtrack albums and I remember being so bewildered when "The Abyss" was released on CD only. No LP!
 
I remember when there were widescreen DVDs coming out that were not "anamorphic" widescreen. Those used to piss me off even more than the pan-and-scan ones! Unfortunately, I still have some of them because there are some stragglers that never got made in anamorphic versions (i.e. the third season of Corner Gas).
 
While I understand that most people prefer the BD versions, I think the DVDs should be kept in print because it's the only place to find the original and unaltered episodes.
 
^ In this case, who WANTS to? The original TNG DVDs are so obviously inferior that nobody should ever want to find them.
 
While I understand that most people prefer the BD versions, I think the DVDs should be kept in print because it's the only place to find the original and unaltered episodes.
But, in the case of TNG, any alterations are being instrumented through necessity; and although not negligible, mirror the originals so closely as to have minimal impact for "purists". Certainly, I don't feel there's any value to seamless branching BD's à la TOS.
 
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