Tasha always went back in time, it was a paradox.
TNG changed the Timeline.
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If time sliding as shown in SNW is legit, then maybe we have a reason as to why Pulaski up and disappears between S2 and S3, never returns, and is never even mentioned again.
Guess that Romulan temporal agent changed more than when the Eugenics Wars happen.
Guess that Romulan temporal agent changed more than when the Eugenics Wars happen.
I always took it as the Eugenics Wars and WW3 were different conflicts that were related to each other. In some instances, people just lump both conflicts together as "WW3".
Possibly. Things definitely changed once Roddenberry was no longer a daily influence in the writer's room.
How are we the audience supposed to interpret it? I don't know? But the changes you mention make for an interesting jumping off point.
Surprised how we never got a novel about how post-"Yesterday's Enterprise" LaForge isn't the same as the pre-YE version, thanks to him having the wrong uniform. Somehow that alternate version of Geordi was the one to survive the changes.
Maybe I've forgot something, but what was exactly wrong with Geordi's uniform after YE?
But I remember Riker becoming a lot more serious and strict after the episode. Could his character have changed because of living through different things in the altered timeline?
He’s wearing the alternate universe version. You can tell by looking at the sleeves when he’s talking to Guinan, at the end of the episode. When she asks him to tell her about Tasha Yar.
TNG didn't really change anything, but it did Define alot of stuff, during TOS it was mostly vague story of the week show, where Tng had time to fill out the universe. Subtle changes? Sure.
You can.
It makes Spock wrong though which I think is a little harder to take for me.
Not necessarily.
From TNG “The Neutral Zone:”
DATA: Since we have had no contact with the Romulans for fifty three years, seven months, eighteen days, we must consider that the information we do have, is out of date.
This changes after YE. Picard is aware of the Romulan attack on Narendra III in 2344 and knows that the Enterprise-C was destroyed by Romulans, because he states this to Guinan in “Redemption:”
GUINAN: How much do you know about what happened to the last ship called Enterprise?
PICARD: Enterprise C? She was lost at the battle of Narendra Three, defending a Klingon outpost from the Romulans.
So something changed.
If the Enterprise never got a hail from the Romulans that Data's statement would still be true.
Data could be talking about ship to ship communication or Government to Government. Not just one ship encountering another ship.
That doesn’t matter. Picard knew about the circumstances with the Ent-C and the Romulans in 2344, after the events of YE. That is different from saying that ‘we have had no contact with the Romulans for fifty-three years blah blah blah.’ So either they are retconning Data’s line, or the timeline changed after YE.
Federation didn't have contact with Romulans but maybe they did get the information somehow from somewhere else so nothing had changed?
But again, the dialogue in “The Neutral Zone” heavily implies that NO ONE has heard anything from them in all that time:
RIKER: There's been no direct contact with the Romulans since the Tomed Incident.
PICARD: The question are, why now? What's their objective? For fifty years there's barely a whisper out of them, and now for no apparent reason they seem to be back with a roar.
RIKER: Everything we know about them is based on rumor or conjecture.
The fact that Picard knew specifically about the Enterprise-C’s destruction at the hands of the Romulans while defending a Klingon outpost directly contradicts this previous info.
It could be theorised that because Picard was the captain he knew more about what's going on with the Romulans than anyone else on board.
And there might be Admirals and who kows who that knew even more but that information was heavily classified.
Then why didn’t Picard mention that he knew about the Enterprise-C’s conflict with the Romulans in TNZ when Riker stated that the only thing they knew about the Romulans was rumor or conjecture? His knowledge was neither of those things.
Secrets are secrets I guess.
Why would Picard have kept it a secret? He told Guinan about it as if it were common knowledge.
You'll have to ask him, I don't know....
Honestly right now I don't remember enough about 'The Nautral Zone' to give a detailed answer, perhaps I should've kept my mouth shut....
No, it’s all good. If I sound like I’m debating you, I’m just having a civil conversation about the thread topic
If I sound like I’m debating you, I’m just having a civil conversation about the thread topic
I guess I was trying to somehow defend 'Yesterday's Enterprise' and that it didn't change the timeline.
But, obviously it did, Tasha's daughter and all that.
There's always the debate that someone shouldn't mess with the timeline.
Why, what makes the timeline so precious it shouldn't be fooled around with.=)
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