TMP-DE fully restored in 4K…it’s about time!

[thribs]

The “Special Longer Version” is not on DVD. Only on VHS I believe. Unfortunately.

I just checked and you’re right. It just has the scenes from that version on it. You would have to assemble it yourself.

 

[Bad Robot]

The SLV existed on both laserdisc and VHS. The theatrical version came back when Paramount began releasing letterbox versions of the ST movies in both formats.

What I’ve always wanted to know was whether the theatrical version was ever released on VHS/BETA before the SLV.

 

[Warped9]

It looks like an illustration, that's all I meant.

I believe it always was just an illustration and not an actual photo of the 11 footer.

 

[Joanna McCoy-Kirk]

The “Special Longer Version” (aka the “3 hour cut” or the ABC TV version) is not on DVD. I even think laserdisc only has the theatrical cut. Only on VHS has the SLV I believe. Unfortunately.

No, there is an SLV laser disc (I own a copy).

 

[Campe]

The SLV existed on both laserdisc and VHS. The theatrical version came back when Paramount began releasing letterbox versions of the ST movies in both formats.

I stand corrected.

 

[thribs]

I’ll have to try a get one of these laser discs then.
The true version would be if anyone actually recorded off the TV back then.

 

[Campe]

I’ll have to try a get one of these laser discs then.
The true version would be if anyone actually recorded off the TV back then.

Growing up, we did have it taped off of TV from probably 1985 or so. That cassette has been in a landfill for many years. Holding on to these things was not a thought in my brain as I upgraded to commercially purchased VHS tapes and later DVDs.

 

[Pauln6]

I hope they're still working on this prior to the disc release, they totally borked one part of this shot. The lower left area underneath the building overhang is a frozen frame, and you can see people half cut off and people walk behind the dissolve. The color doesn't match (looks like the power windows setting was in the wrong spot maybe?) ...that corner is a shambles. And it's not an error that appears in the next wide shot when Kirk and Sonak are on the mini-escalator.

Holographic visitors using virtual reality.

 

[Pauln6]

Now I just need to see this “3 hour” TV cut of the film. I might have the DVD somewhere

I have done my own DE/SLV hybrid and I think it works well. You do need to add background hum and bridge noises in places but once that's done it works great.

I'm waiting for the bluray to see how the SLV looks next to the remastered version. I might have to do some colour correction. I'm also not sure how much grain this version has compared to the recent TC bluray. Need to try and get that to match too.

Not going to try to upscale SLV scenes to UHD though. I don't think that would work.

 

[Campe]

Not going to try to upscale SLV scenes to UHD though. I don't think that would work.

I wonder if they’ll port over the extras from the DVD and if the deleted scenes will see a bump to 4K or at least HD. I’m still holding out hope that the UHD will have all three versions of TMP. But admit it might be futile to hope for that. The SLV is the version I (and I’m sure most) remember from the 80s and 90s.

 

[Ottens]

Brand new observation lounge windows/wall/view

Could someone post screenshots of this scene?

(Paramount+ is not available in the Netherlands, or indeed in most countries. I won't rant about how CBS consistently neglects fans outside America...)

 

[The Rock]

Could someone post screenshots of this scene?

(Paramount+ is not available in the Netherlands, or indeed in most countries. I won't rant about how CBS consistently neglects fans outside America...)

 

[Bad Robot]

I don’t think I ever went back to the SLV after ‘94. Now part of it was “I just re-purchased all these VHS tapes in letterbox, why would I go back?” But also the SLV never again felt like a finished version of the film. Even though it improved the awkwardly sped-up dialogue (transmittheimageofalientostarfleetadviseweareattemptingfurthercommunication) and had a less stiff interaction between Kirk/Bones.

 

[Ottens]

Thanks, @The Rock!

Judging from the screenshots, I'm not sure this was a wise change... Looks like the actors are rather awkwardly cut out.

Also, is it my imagination, or did they give Shatner a little trim in the midsection?

 

[The Rock]

Thanks, @The Rock!

Judging from the screenshots, I'm not sure this was a wise change... Looks like the actors are rather awkwardly cut out.

Also, is it my imagination, or did they give Shatner a little trim in the midsection?

My pleasure! If you want any more screenies just ask!

 

[Bad Robot]

That is pretty grotesque. I hope the team is still together and can sharpen some of this stuff up.

 

[Kamdan]

Yeah, that scene looks **rough**. There's one shot where Kirk and McCoy look like blurry VHS quality cutouts.

Yeah, I was pretty alarmed by just how low quality the image was in places during that. Bones' face almost disappears into nothing but clumped pixels and soft edges at one point.

I don’t understand their need to alter this scene as far as they needed to. I just accept in the original cut that they’re in a private room and the observation deck. The two main reasons why that scene looks so bad is because they’re attempting to key out parts of the scene that weren’t designed ti be that way and they obviously didn’t have the original elements to make it look high quality.

That is pretty grotesque. I hope the team is still together and can sharpen some of this stuff up.

They can’t. This is a classic “when you copy a positive, you get a negative” example. You need the original elements to make this as high quality as you can get.

 

[Doug Otte]

Unless my hearing is playing tricks on me, it sounds like the dialogue has been remixed, I’m guessing they must have gone back to the original audio stems to create the new sound mix? It really became apparent to me when Kirk was speaking with Sonak. It sounds more natural. I wish I could be more articulate on how to describe the difference.

There's an interview with Fein linked at Trekmovie and Trekcore. He's rambles quite a bit. But, yes, he said they had access to a lot of the original ADR tracks and were able to reinsert and remix the dialogue to be more balanced.

 

[Indysolo]

What I’ve always wanted to know was whether the theatrical version was ever released on VHS/BETA before the SLV.

Yep. (not my auction)

 

[MakeshiftPython]

The SLV existed on both laserdisc and VHS. The theatrical version came back when Paramount began releasing letterbox versions of the ST movies in both formats.

What I’ve always wanted to know was whether the theatrical version was ever released on VHS/BETA before the SLV.

The theatrical was available first in 1981 on VHS, Beta, LaserDisc, and CED videodisc.

Here’s the LaserDisc pages.

Theatrical 1981: https://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/38583/LV-8858/Star-Trek-I:-The-Motion-Picture

SLV 1983: https://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/23228/LV-8858-2A/Star-Trek-I:-The-Motion-Picture