Out of curiosity I loaded a scruffy low detail 3D model of a Sovereign class, cut a hole in the front of the bridge, and pointed a camera out. Seems like you wouldn't see the saucer but you might see a little bit of the deck below.
TMP-DE fully restored in 4K…it’s about time!
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Interesting. I feel much the same.
Of course they listened to the fans with Star Wars and Justice League, they were the people writing and directing them. Rian Johnson is a big enough fan that he had a shelf of Star Wars books to use as research.
TVH is also my least favourite.
I’m faintly surprised the 4K producers went to all the trouble of (badly) rotoscoping the actors into the new lounge and yet didn’t get around to fixing the space station’s viewports or even adding a background Luna to a couple of Earth orbit scenes.
That was the part of the essay I most strongly agreed with.
Interesting that the editorialist doesn't seem to realize his own characterization of his least favorite Trek movie (which I assume isn't Berman Trek enough for a lot of fans, or else doesn't have enough spaceship shots in it) pretty well exemplifies the kind of fan outcry that he then describes studios and directors (or as I would say producers' directors) as being held hostage to. But perhaps he was distracted by his own undeservedly-inspired jab at the increasingly "portly" state of the actors, as if that had anything to do with anything.
No thanks. He can burn in Hell with the rest of his Axanar cronies.
The recent TC has cleaner shots than this. I have limited success in After Effects but if it's frame for frame the same, I might have a go at merging the two once the bluray comes out in September.Just watched it and thought it looked and sounded great. The only obvious flaw is in the scene where Kirk/Spock/McCoy speak together in the lounge from 53:25 to 56:00. There's some very messy work done whenever any of the characters are standing in front of the background star field. Strange that this should look so bad when it seems like a pretty straightforward shot.
It's much more obvious in motion than in this screenshot:
Hoping to see it in a theater next month and definitely getting it on disc!
Edit: David cgc notes the same issue with the lounge scene and give a possible explanation.
It's more conspicuously absent then the necelles (and I understand why they didn't bother to visualize it). From what I'm seeing here, just put the original shot back in.
After the bit about "Ensign, the possibility of our returning from this mission in one piece...may have just doubled" and the cut to Engineering, we hear lines from Chekov that I don't ever remember hearing before. Did Walter Koenig record all new lines for this version?
Also, during the Epsilon IX scenes, I swear the voice heard from the Columbia (acknowledging orders to rendezvous with the Revere) is also brand new. Can anyone confirm?
Also, during the Epsilon IX scenes, I swear the voice heard from the Columbia (acknowledging orders to rendezvous with the Revere) is also brand new. Can anyone confirm?
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As I understand everything I’ve read there were quite a few audio tracks that were supposed to be included in the film originally, but never made it because the film was to completion. But unlike when the DE was first created this time around they found a lot of those original missing audio tracks and put them back into the film as Wise originally intended.
I've only jumped to a few shots to see the "remastered" effects as I haven't watched the DC before. I was wondering what they would do about the badly distorted hump on the primary hull when the landing party stepped out onto the upper surface of the saucer. Thought maybe they would just correct that curvature, but instead they replaced it with a dumb shot of the hex-cell walkway slowly materializing in front of the ship. Really? The unimaginably powerful, incredibly gigantic V'ger can't just pop out something that relatively small in the blink of an eye the way things suddenly appear in Lost in Space?
That was the intent in much of the original storyboards and concept art.
Can't take him seriously. No way anyone could rate TFF above TVH.
Doesn't mean it makes sense. Sometimes, it's better to cut things from the final movie when they don't help at all.
Well, then your beef is with the late lamented director, Robert Wise. All of these choices were still his to make when the DE was originally assembled around 2000. This new remaster follows his edits and choices.
