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Threshold - great up until the lizard part?

The thing that gets me is...at some point before hitting 'infinity' the shuttle must have been doing Warp 9.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999etc..

which is gonna be stupidly faster than warp 9.9....if they'd gone as fast as they could without breaking the threshold then surely they could have gotten home much faster than normal that way?

It certainly didn't look as though it went into warp 10 while skipping the acceleration...

But the show would have been over if they did that. ;)
 
Wasn't it retconned by the writers later on in a episode in a later season so its officially not canon?
 
I know the premise was nonsense, but I always kind of liked the suggestion that we might eventually evolve into something a lot LESS complex, or aware.

I mean, most of the time, it's more like "In a hundred thousand years, we'll be Qs, or Organians, or whatever..."
 
^He should have got to the Alpha Quadrant purely through the speed he reached before he it transwarp...
 
Thing is you can't really 'hit' infinite velocity, in the same way that you can't 'hit' infinity when you're counting.

Warp ten isn't so much a speed as it is a mathematical concept.

This is the problem the producers created by giving infinite velocity a name such as "warp ten" - it leads to people understandably thinking that after warp seven, warp eight and warp nine comes warp ten.

All these galaxy-spanning speeds are not faster than warp ten, as people will obviously assume, but rather speeds in the range of warp 9.9999999999999+.

But of course to portray this on TV becomes extremely cumbersome to the average viewer, so by calling infinite velocity "warp ten" you end up with clumsy-sounding "warp nine point nine seven five" lines which is about as many decimal places as you can reasonably say on TV without it getting silly.

"I broke the warp ten barrier" makes as much sense as "I counted past infinity."
 
Yes...but this is the ship that escaped a black hole through a "crack in the event horizon"

Performing acts of sorcery has never been a problem for them...
 
Wasn't it retconned by the writers later on in a episode in a later season so its officially not canon?

No.

No? I could of sworn I remember reading that the writers wanted to retcon it because of how rediculous it was, in a future episode Paris says "I never crossed the threshold" I don't remember what episode that was specificially maybe someone shed some light?
 
Wasn't it retconned by the writers later on in a episode in a later season so its officially not canon?

No.

No? I could of sworn I remember reading that the writers wanted to retcon it because of how rediculous it was, in a future episode Paris says "I never crossed the threshold" I don't remember what episode that was specificially maybe someone shed some light?

Yes, I forget the episode, but Braga later decanonised Threshold and this line was meant to make it clear!

Robert Duncan McNeill was generally puzzled by this episode, so he tried to rationalize it for himself. "When you try to tell the story–he breaks warp ten, starts shedding skin, he kidnaps the captain and then he becomes one with the universe, [he and Janeway] are salamanders, and have a baby–it sounds ridiculous," McNeill remarked. "What is this about? Before you can even start to tell the story you have to find the moral. What is the simplest point of this episode? Once you can say that in a sentence then that is what the episode is about. To me [...] the whole warp ten [challenge] and salamanders and all of that frosting was about Paris trying to find some sort of salvation outside himself and ultimately realizing that he had to find his own self worth from within. Here is somebody who thinks he's got to break warp ten and prove to everybody, his father and himself that he can do this outside thing, but ultimately your happiness comes from within."

That's why the man's a pro!
 
No? I could of sworn I remember reading that the writers wanted to retcon...?
At what point in the last few years did people start confusing 'of' with 'have' then?

Could of, would of, should of...

I could of used "could have." Maybe I should of. But I don't think that would of changed the fact that grammar nazis are dickless maggots with no life. You sir are retconned from life.
 
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