General Martok became a regular. Chancellor Gowron was recurring throughout TNG and DS9. The Duras Sisters (the less said about them the better) had some recurring appearances....
Three new actors announced as well as some plot details
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I do think Martok or Gowron were villains though and the Duras sisters were just generic villains.
Besides Martok (who is not a villain) none of those characters you mentioned have an arc, they are pretty one dimensional characters.
I am talking about a Klingon villain who while still being a villain, is a very well developed character. We have never had a well developed reoccurring Klingon villain, that is what this series can do.
"The Klingon cast features Obi as T’Kuvma, a “Klingon leader seeking to unite the Klingon houses,” Latif as Kol, “commanding officer of the Klingons and protégé of T’Kuvma,” and Chieffo as L’Rell, “the battle deck commander of the Klingon ship”."
This all sounds very interesting! So the Discovery's ship design and the teaser's theme music were clues to the plot. I wonder how the USS Discovery's mission fits in... OK, I'm excited again!
This all sounds very interesting! So the Discovery's ship design and the teaser's theme music were clues to the plot. I wonder how the USS Discovery's mission fits in... OK, I'm excited again!
Okay, I really think the bigger picture here is the change in format from the older Trek shows. This thing is heavily serialized in a modern TV sense (no, DS9 was not, though "Enterprise" took a not-entirely successful stab at it for *one* season) and part of that apparently is that the weekly canvas is broader than the goings-on among the crew aboard one ship called "Discovery."
So we've got a Klingon vessel whose characters figure into the ongoing story to an extent that no Klingons ever have - they may be as important as continuing characters as the captain of Discovery.
That does count as something new and a bit of an innovation for "Star Trek." The fact that they're reusing Klingons just shorthands the backstory and *that* is always a good thing.
So we've got a Klingon vessel whose characters figure into the ongoing story to an extent that no Klingons ever have - they may be as important as continuing characters as the captain of Discovery.
That does count as something new and a bit of an innovation for "Star Trek." The fact that they're reusing Klingons just shorthands the backstory and *that* is always a good thing.
We've known? Really? Okay, maybe we knew there'd be a Klingon or two on the show, but this announcement is the first time it becomes clear what a big part they'll actually have in the new show. It's the first time they are saying the plot will revolve around them, isn't it? Although it's possible I wasn't following the announcements around Discovery that closely, to be honest. I might have missed this.
I'm not saying it'll automatically be bad because it involves Klingons. I'm just saying that I really don't like them and really never have.
Klingons make everything better.
But seriously, I really like the flat-head vs. bumpy-head idea. The theme of this season is "understand each other" according to Fuller, so... yeah, it'd make sense.
But seriously, I really like the flat-head vs. bumpy-head idea. The theme of this season is "understand each other" according to Fuller, so... yeah, it'd make sense.
I consider all of the above to be good news. Firstly, we're getting Klingons. A woefully overlooked iconic species in the current series of films while it's also nice to see a more middle aged cast (thus far) rather than go for a millennial style of casting (this is coming from a person who is...a millennial...urgh...that hurt).
It's canon, so I'd shoot it now.
Do you think that there will be a young Duras on the show?
Is this time period to early?
Is this time period to early?
There's always a Duras.
So many Klingons. 
TOS Klingons were fine, but since then their portrayal went downhill and I really fear, we will get Worf alike Klingons and I can't imagine anything worse. That was one of the most idiotic characters ever in a Star Trek series.
And I am also just so tired of Klingons. They were done to death. I hope they will surprise me positively, but I have my doubts.
So far we know the actors of 4 male and 2 female characters. Let's hope, it evens out, when we know them all.
TOS Klingons were fine, but since then their portrayal went downhill and I really fear, we will get Worf alike Klingons and I can't imagine anything worse. That was one of the most idiotic characters ever in a Star Trek series.
And I am also just so tired of Klingons. They were done to death. I hope they will surprise me positively, but I have my doubts.
So far we know the actors of 4 male and 2 female characters. Let's hope, it evens out, when we know them all.
You don't set a show 10 years before Kirk and not have the Klingons be a key part, let's be honest. It's also been in public domain for a while now that a Klingon captain was meant to be the main antagonist on the show, so not sure where this sudden surprise is coming from.
Given that this is a serialised season, the Klingons might get the best development they've ever had.
Given that this is a serialised season, the Klingons might get the best development they've ever had.
It's all gonna be in the writing, as always...
No, it was a production error, and production errors are apparently exempt from canon. What production error you might ask? A writing mistake. Like in Deep Space Nine when they said the Eugenics wars were two hundred years ago.
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