While ENT was far from being my favorite Trek series, I'd like to know how it actually ignored or changed canon.
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While ENT was far from being my favorite Trek series, I'd like to know how it actually ignored or changed canon.
Nothing it did changed canon. Any line, episode or bit of minutia it might have contradicted is still in the canon. At best it might have altered some continuity, but no worse that any of the other installments.
Ugh, Enterprise didn't disregard canon in any significant way, it's only crime is being cancelled too early. Actually one thing Enterprise did was that I am miffed at is it seemed in season 4 the Ent crew could understand Klingons (or Klingons learned English perfectly well?) and in The Undiscovered Country during Kirk's trial they still had to use hand-held translators to understand the Klingon language. If Klingons are going to be a significant part of Discovery I really hope this is addressed that either Klingons know English or the Universal Translator was already invented.
After Kirk and McCoy were arrested, the Klingons confiscated their universal translators. So during the trial they had to use translators that were provided by the court.
Ah, okay. Although there is the scene where Uhura and co. are flipping through the Klingon language books because they don't know the language, even though according to the Memory Alpha website this scene was only put in the movie "for laughs".
I guess that can be disregarded.
That has two different explanations:
- In the novelization, Valeris actually erases all records of the Klingon language from the computer. So the UT would no longer work for Klingonese.
- IIRC, the above scene was also filmed, but for some reason they changed it in post production. Chekov's line about "We must respond personally, the Universal Translator will be recognized" is clearly an overdub. Although if we accept the line as read, it implies that use of the UT can be detected, and the smugglers the Enterprise crew are supposed to be, would never have access to a UT. So they had to pretend they didn't have one.
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Then you're looking at the wrong franchise.
It's my favourite Trek film, but making Uhura look incompetent for "laughs" was a misstep.
There's an obvious one right there in the title. Pre-2001 canon was pretty unambiguous that the ship from TOS was the first "Starship Enterprise".
Except for the ringship from 1979's Star Trek: The Motion Picture. And the fact there's no line of dialog stating that the NCC 1701 was the first starship called "Enterprise". The closest to that is
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No, it wasn't.
Unforetunately, I have to agree, the-Klingons-with-honor thing was beaten to death.
Time to give it a rest.
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I don't know... I'm not a fan.
Not because of continuity concerns (smooth forehead vs. rigded ones - they gonna' have ridged ones). As long as it looks somewhat realistic and good. But I don't like the focus on politics and war.
If I want to watch a show about politics in a fantastical setting, I watch Game of Thrones. If I want to see war and battles in space, I'm going to watch Star Wars.
What drives me to Trek is that unique perspective of explorers, travelling into the unknown, you know, where no man has been before, strange new lifeforms and civilisations and all that gospel. I hope this doesn't turn out to be just another Dominion-/Xindi-war arc, just with klingons.
Not because of continuity concerns (smooth forehead vs. rigded ones - they gonna' have ridged ones). As long as it looks somewhat realistic and good. But I don't like the focus on politics and war.
If I want to watch a show about politics in a fantastical setting, I watch Game of Thrones. If I want to see war and battles in space, I'm going to watch Star Wars.
What drives me to Trek is that unique perspective of explorers, travelling into the unknown, you know, where no man has been before, strange new lifeforms and civilisations and all that gospel. I hope this doesn't turn out to be just another Dominion-/Xindi-war arc, just with klingons.
I'm sure they'll manage to fit that in about 5 to 10 percent of the time, same as the other series.
In fact, probably the series that devoted the most time of any to exploration was Enterprise.
If the House of Duras doesn't somehow feature prominently in the series, I'm boycotting.
Oh come on...90 percent of Voyager was totally new things and places. Everything from the Gamma Quadrant in Ds9....
If only we were all that fortunate.
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