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Thoughts on "Code of Honor"...

dswynne1

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Having just seen RLM's "Top Ten TNG Episode" (Part 1), I need to know if "Code of Honor" was controversial. Was it because it was based on African cultures? Was it because it featured a "white" woman (Yar) fighting a "black" woman? I mean, we had ritual combat situations going back to "Amok Time" and "The Gamesters of Triskelion" (TOS), where, in the former, you had two men were fighting over a woman, who used both to get with another man, while, in the latter, you had Kirk cold-cock one of the female gladiators. No one thought that those episodes were "controversial"...

But, for real, I thought the episode "Up the Long Ladder" was a bit much, with its stereotype of Irish people, circa 24th century.
 
Racist with it's stereotypes but also kind of fun if you don't take it to serious to sort of watch and laugh at it and how absurd the whole thing is and how people in 1987 thought it would be a good idea to make that into a episode.


Jason
 
Apparently, the director was a racist asshole. But the end product doesn't seem to be all that remarkable either way: a bunch of aliens think of themselves as pretty cool folks, and have Ways that Kirk, uh, Picard doesn't agree with, Ways the audience can associate with Earth precedent more or less easily yet against the stereotype of casting (say, Californian surfer dudes playing the part of the Vietnamese in TOS "Private Little War"). The heroes then circumvent these Ways, rather than try and change them, but the end result nevertheless is the audience cheering when the Ways are ridiculed.

The adventure is almost pure TOS, then, except for the bit where the Captain isn't the one to solve everything. Plus, Kirk would just have stolen the medicine, considering there was little in the way of plot complication to stop such a theft this time around. Picard's team avoided that because they were decent folks by their own standards, which is a fairly un-TOS-like sentiment.

Of course, every era would see its own issues in such harmless entertainment. So far, I've never really heard it agonized over that women were involved in the fight, let alone that one color of female triumphing over another would be a major fetish worth rioting over. But now would be a good time to raise holy hell over that, I guess.

Timo Saloniemi
 
I'm sick of my wife.

Ooo! Maybe I can trick that dumb alien over there into killing my wife. Dead wife, that would be hella awesome.

That was easy.

Shit.

My wife is not dead.

Shit.

She's pissed.

Shit.

Quickie divorce.

I'll go find a gutter to drink myself to death in.

Sigh.
 
Not racist but could have done alot better with the stereotypes. It's like a man who has never been to Africa trying to make an exotic Africa planet. This debate has been had here before and I likened it to a poundshop Wakanda.

As for Darby O Gill in space that episode is crazy bad with the stereotypes but any Irish Trek fans I know love the episode for its ridiculousness and it's sexy Aran croptops
 
In general early TNG seemed to fall for the old Star Wars single climate planet thing. I'm pretty sure all people on the sexy pleasure planet were white ,all the people on the women rule planet were white and all the Irish were white. Then all the code people were black which is not very realistic assuming they have melanin
 
The episode dove hard into the African stereotypes presented in old "adventure literature" from the time of European colonialism.
Lutan and his people are presented as superstitious, impulsive, brutal, selfish, lustful, driven by their base urges and in possession of low cunning. Lutan instantly falls head over heels for the whitest woman available and instead of romancing her, like the vast majority of aliens in Star Trek would do in such a situation, he then kidnaps her, prompting the (mostly white) heroes to go an rescue her by outsmarting the natives with their "superior" intellect.
And the scene at the end, the way its worded and portrayed smack of "Awwww these savages think they're people! Isn't it amusing?"

So yes, in my opinion the episode is very racist. That we got an "Aryan Sex Babe" planet in the same season just brings up more problems, especially if you look how differently the Edo were portrayed in contrast to Lutan's people.
 
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SNIP!

So yes, in my opinion the episode is very racist. That we got an "Aryan Sex Babe" planet in the same season just brings up more problems, especially if you look how differently the Edo were portrayed in contrast to Lutan's people.

I never saw the situation in the same way. I thought that the Lutan character was purposely conniving, knowing full well that the Federation had rules (and needs) that he could manipulate to his advantage. And, I didn't see him as being that enamored with Tasha Yar, other than a means to an end. But, if anything, from today's hindsight, the episode could be seen as more "sexist" than "racist", since Yar's opponent, Yareena, wasn't given any agency of her own. It would have been nice if Yareena, being forced to compete for the sake of her honor, knew full well what Lutan was up to, but was "caged" by the same rules that Lutan was attempting to enforce. This would have paralleled how the Federation's own rules, with both "straight-jacking" people into doing something that everyone knows is wrong.

And I thought that the Edo planet was just...weird, probably someone's fetish on display...
 
I'd imagine that somewhere in the early thinking concerning the script or casting was "Everyone in Trek's galaxy of non-Earth aliens has always been white, let's go someplace where no one is white" - and while the intent may have been "liberal" there's a problem with that kind of reasoning at its base. The other notion would have been "let's have an advanced planet based on non-Western cultures, because Trek has always been divided into advanced Western civilizations and exotic "other" cultures."

Anyway, the thinking was superficial and it turned out awful.
 
The earliest concept of Code of Honour had Reptilian aliens that were based on feudal Japan (with Lutan, basically, being a Samurai)
I assume this was changed to humans because of makeup problems and somebody wanted the fight between Tasha and Yareena to be "sexy". I do wonder, however whether those cobra-like masks from Lonely Among Us were originally created for Code of Honour.
 
The episode wasn't boring. But it reeked of something unseemly.

In this episode, TNG got a case of jungle fever.

I don't know what the intention of the episode's writers were, but there were aspects of it that were somewhat cringe-worthy.

Lutan's kidnapping of Tasha played into the racist fear of "the black man stealing the white man's woman".

The story also played into the stereotype of the sexual prowess of the black man. Tasha admitted that she couldn't resist the attractiveness of Lutan, like there was some kind of raw animal magnetism exuding from Lutan. Yareena describes how every woman loves him.




Were there any other TNG episodes that featured an exclusively, or predominately (or even a significant number of), black cast as guest stars? Of the 170+ TNG episodes, I can't think of another TNG episode that was cast in such a way.

It seems odd that the writers would pick this particular story for that particular cast. What was the thinking behind pairing this story for that cast?
 
The thing is, "Code of Honor" wasn't actually written with the intention of portraying the Ligonians as African. As scripted, they're based more on feudal Japan, as mentioned above, and the dialogue has lines comparing their culture to Ming China and Native American "counting coup" customs. And their wardrobe is like a spacey version of something from The King and I, maybe -- more Southeast Asian or Middle Eastern. But the director chose to cast them all as African-American and have them play it with stock "African" accents, and reportedly he was actually fired late in the production because of his racial attitudes.

So really the episode is a melange of Orientalist and tribalist cliches, but people see the actors and hear their accents and assume it's solely about African stereotypes. It's really a much more eclectic, wide-ranging form of ethnic condescension and exoticism.

At the time, though, before I realized all this, I thought the episode was actually pretty progressive. I mean, TOS and most other SF film and TV up to that point had routinely portrayed alien humanoids as all-white, or cast white actors in a sci-fi equivalent of yellowface or brownface (e.g. the Klingons, conceived as "space Mongols" and actually described in James Blish's adaptations as Asian in appearance). So the simple act of casting a lot of black actors in an episode, or positing that an entire species could be black by default instead of white, seemed like a very inclusive, forward-looking statement to make. Now, though, I see that the episode's problems outweigh that. But it shows how bad previous SFTV was at inclusion that even "Code of Honor" felt like a step forward at the time.
 
^Thanks for that info.

On a slightly different matter, (repeating myself) as far as I can remember, "Code of Honor" was the only TNG episode (of the 170+ episodes) that had an exclusively, or predominately, or a significant number of, black cast as guest stars. I wonder why that was the case.

I would have assumed that, just for a change of pace if nothing else, the show would have had a number of episodes that employed a guest cast that was majority, or plurality, black. There could have been a variety of TNG stories that just happened to have a significant number of black actors as guest stars.

I suppose the casting people could have picked any random TNG episode, except the Irish one, and cast multiple black actors as guest stars to fill the roles, just for a change of pace. But that didn't happen.

Besides, alien life supposedly would be diverse. So a diverse guest cast would seem apropros.
 
It's always been an uphill battle to get casting directors to cast nonwhite actors for anything other than "ethnic" roles. It's getting better now, but this was the '80s and '90s.
 
I liked that in the end, the woman outsmarted the guy and won all his land or something like that, while he had to step aside.
 
The thing is, "Code of Honor" wasn't actually written with the intention of portraying the Ligonians as African. As scripted, they're based more on feudal Japan, as mentioned above, and the dialogue has lines comparing their culture to Ming China and Native American "counting coup" customs.

Exactly - casting against type is the thing they attempted here. Sort of the exact opposite of "Up the Long Ladder", and less clear-cut than "Angel One" where flipping the gender left no room for interpretation. A scifi thing to do, and with TOS precedent, but perhaps not all that easy to pull off.

SG-1 got mileage out of casting in type, even if it sometimes required a bit of blackfacing, considering the global scope of the fictional setting. But SG-1 then got critiqued for failing to get the type right: their Mongols or Egyptians or Early Christians or whatnot were fish-in-a-barrel targets for pointing out errors in detail or in whole, as there was no leeway from the scifi setup. (Or, rather, there was - nobody should have expected Mongols to remain true to form if separated from Mongolia for centuries on an empty, forested planet, yet the critics still did.)

I would have assumed that, just for a change of pace if nothing else, the show would have had a number of episodes that employed a guest cast that was majority, or plurality, black. There could have been a variety of TNG stories that just happened to have a significant number of black actors as guest stars.

True enough. We have come to expect adventures where the majority of the guest cast is blue or green, after all! Going all-black would theoretically have had absolutely nothing to do with African-Americans.

In practice, though... Any episode where this thing didn't just "happen" but in fact had some sort of a story rationale would have touched on racial strife (even the ones with the blues and the greens generally did!), and there were specific episodes reserved for that.

Besides, alien life supposedly would be diverse. So a diverse guest cast would seem apropros.

Now that is another issue that crops up often enough in these discussions. Busy commerce hubs might be diverse. Primitive farming villages or advanced strongholds of dominant factions might be expected not to be, though. In "False Profits", say, one certainly wouldn't expect to see a single black face in the white crowd - if not for the fact that the Prophets were there, no doubt attracting travelers from far and wide even on this planet where long distance transportation was primitive or nonexistent. And Bajorans might have settled in their racial niches just like they bowed to their caste system fates - but Cardassians would have been oblivious to that, or exploited that, and there could have been forced relocations galore. Etc.

Timo Saloniemi
 
Lutan was a primitive asshole and an idiot.

Picard and Dee were so worried that Tasha was attracted to him and willing to flush her career down the toilet, betraying Starfleet (Marla McGivers!) that they had to telepathically scan her.

That's sad.

Although Lutan is more civilized than where she grew up.

"Avoiding rapegangs"

If I'd written that story, Tasha would have killed a few guards who were trying to put her in a cell, because that's just what you do when a man drags you someplace you don't want to go, and murder is legal.
 
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And I thought that the Edo planet was just...weird, probably someone's fetish on display...
Gene's vision!

Code of Honor
At the time back in 1987, watching the episode, as Chris stated above, was an improvement having a plot where the crew beam down and every single person does not look like the meeting of a wanna be WASP convention. It was worse when they came across a human populated planet, I think it was only The Masterpiece society that had a 'diverse descendants from Earth' population.
When VOY came along, some fans could not handle a brown skinned Vulcan, after all beings from a predominately, very hot, desert planet can never have brown skin right? :rolleyes:
I did not consider Code of Honor racist at the time, I did not know the racial attitudes of the director but he did not write the script. As a brown skinned human I am not entirely convinced of the 'Code of Honor is racist' argument, since as far as I know there are no brown skinned people on a real life Earth that fit the portrayal on the show.
I think the love interests of the crew were more racially close minded, its the 24th century and every time Picard, Riker, La Forge, Crusher have a romance the love interest has the same melanin content that they do? The only exception were Worf and O'Brien.
At least DISC broke the mode in that department!
 
Should we expect "diverse descendants" when a crazy sect sails to outer space in order to break it off with the rest of mankind? In certain cases, yes. In certain others, no. "Up the Long Ladder" gives us a perfectly credible scenario where anybody falling short of the strict standards of the Irish Stereotype would have been left ashore as a corrupting element: the whole point of the colony was to LARP an idealized and idolized type of Old Irish existence, with little regard to historical basis or other such herbertry.

Could Vulcan be realistically expected to have diversity? I guess that depends on whether the planet itself is diverse. We've seen sand, rocks and more sand: if white, slim and tall with piercing eyes and exotic sharp cheeks is good for Shi'Kahr, it might be good for the whole planet. But then we got to see a bit more in DSC, including a forest and a rain season...

On the other hand, Vulcan is unnatural to begin with: Spock in "Return to Tomorrow" readily believes that Aliens Did It, apparently that the earliest Vulcans were the seed of extravulcanites, or just possibly transplants. Options then abound: if Sargon's putative Adam and Eve literally spawned all of Vulcan, there'd be zero diversity (unless these advanced folks brought along a pill for it); if there was a somewhat larger community of Sargonites, diversity might exist early on but probably would be soon weeded out if the planet didn't support it; if Sargon's fellow gods pushed buttons that made Vulcan teem with humanoid life, they might have arranged for diversity or then not. We already know the result: Tuvok exists. And we've seen Romulans with the same features: pointy ears grafted onto the archetypal negroid. It would seem such diversity goes back at least a couple of thousand years, then, be it "natural" or "engineered" or whatnot.

It's a bit unimaginative that black actors would be black people and nothing else in Trek: white actors can be green and horny, or blue and horny, or violet and scaly, or whatnot. A Bajoran nose or Vulcan ears are pretty low-key cosmetics that basically just accentuate the narrowness of the range. Then again, what to make of a large number of the evil Klingons being black? Probalby nothing - this adversary culture has always been delightfully diverse, there being no two Klingons in TOS who'd be ethnically alike to the human eye!

Timo Saloniemi
 
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