Spoilers Thor: Love and Thunder grade and discussion thread

[CorporalCaptain]

That doesn’t need to be the case here. They are always taking liberties with their mythology characters.

It also didn't not need to be the case here. Zeus didn't need to be in the film. The film didn't even need to exist.

Yet here I am, having been entertained by it and Crowe.

But let's look at the central theme of the film. The core story is about coping with an existence in which the gods are assholes, completely indifferent to the suffering of mortals and the losses they experience. The climax of the film is when Gorr chooses to resurrect Love instead of seeking vengeance against the gods. If Zeus isn't an asshole, that choice is not necessary.

Given that that's the story of the film, it kinda is necessary for Zeus to be an asshole.

Also, in any other variation, if Zeus is not an asshole, but rather he is a loving figure who sympathizes with Gorr and would act on his behalf, then that would open the door for a deus ex machina resolution in which the characters do not even need to make choices or sacrifices.

 

[Grendelsbayne]

And also this whole idea of Zeus as a surrogate father figure/Odin 2.0 would just make the entire concept of even using Zeus at all completely pointless, imo. Thor already had Odin. We don't need to see him have the same relationship all over again with Zeus. A total asshole who is actually not his family at all but controls a realm of his own potentially just as powerful as Asgard is something new and different with real potential for future stories.

 

[fireproof78]

That doesn’t need to be the case here. They are always taking liberties with their mythology characters.

Thor doesn't need another father figure. He has worked to realize that the gods indifference to mortal matters has led to some pretty horrible things. He has grown in a way that the gods don't seem to realize they need to do so.

 

[thribs]

I just preferred the way he was presented in the deleted scenes. That’s all.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

I just preferred the way he was presented in the deleted scenes. That’s all.

That's fair.

 

[Thestral]

Yeah, but not nearly as much as Zeus.

Well... "starts wars for his own ends" vs "serial rapist."

Thor doesn't need another father figure. He has worked to realize that the gods indifference to mortal matters has led to some pretty horrible things. He has grown in a way that the gods don't seem to realize they need to do so.

Except you've got Bast and Tawaret at a minimum from other pantheons. Plus Khonshu, although... he's a dick. But... our dick unlike Zeus.

 

[fireproof78]

Except you've got Bast and Tawaret at a minimum from other pantheons. Plus Khonshu, although... he's a dick. But... our dick unlike Zeus.

Certainly but there is a lot represented there. Like 50, by one channels count. The gods in general give an attitude of indifference. Kind of similar to Loki's charge against Thor back in the Avengers.

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[Kai "the spy"]

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[Tuskin38]

Certainly but there is a lot represented there. Like 50, by one channels count. The gods in general give an attitude of indifference. Kind of similar to Loki's charge against Thor back in the Avengers.

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I still wonder how they get away with using screen caps from footage hand recorded in a theatre.
I guess as long as they don't use actual moving footage Disney doesn't care, idk.

 

[fireproof78]

I still wonder how they get away with using screen caps from footage hand recorded in a theatre.
I guess as long as they don't use actual moving footage Disney doesn't care, idk.

Same. Not sure how that all works out.

 

[ashleytinger]

Well. It was an experience. Overall I enjoyed it but it won't be my go to for a Thor movie when I pick one to watch. I do so love the screaming goats though. Those made me cackle every time they were on screen. Thinking about it, they could have played everything else as serious and left the screaming goats alone and it would have been perfect.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Funny how either people absolutely love the screaming goats or absolutely hate them. A huge gulf between the two.

 

[fireproof78]

I just hate goats.

 

[Kai "the spy"]

Funny how either people absolutely love the screaming goats or absolutely hate them. A huge gulf between the two.

Personally, I laughed the first two times they showed up. After that, I found them increasingly annoying.

 

[tomalak301]

Funny how either people absolutely love the screaming goats or absolutely hate them. A huge gulf between the two.

They were annoying.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Nebula found the goats annoying.

 

[Noname Given]

Personally, I laughed the first two times they showed up. After that, I found them increasingly annoying.

Yeah, that was pretty much my reaction too

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Nebula found the goats annoying.

Which I found very endearing.

...and made me love the goats even more.

 

[theenglish]

I just hate goats.

It's their eyes. Why do the have rectangular pupils. Just Satanic.

 

[fireproof78]

It's their eyes. Why do the have rectangular pupils. Just Satanic.

Eyes. Noses, noises. I have found them quite irritating at every farm, plus them wandering on my property.