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Things we only realized later about DS9

…to sing with Vic, of course!

He didn't sing it in the show. The song just gets spoof name-checked.

Actually, I just noticed there is a James Darren song in the episode “ far beyond the stars“… it is near the beginning around the point when The Sisko meets O’Brien at nogs book kiosk. It’s just plays for a couple of seconds and I don’t recognize the song. It does sound a lot like Vic’s Voice though. Could that be the song? I would probably have to listen to that segment and try to figure out what that song is…
 
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One thing I realised a little later on was how similar Tosk was to the Jem 'Hadar soldiers, and considering that they both came from the Gamma Quadrant why as far as I know was nothing was ever said to confirm or deny the similarities?
Unless it was and I missed it or it was covered in one of the many DS9 novels out there? :sigh:
JB
Good catch. A note here agrees with you. https://memory-beta.fandom.com/wiki/Tosk
the Hunter's "energy crossbows" are also the same prop as the jemHadar rifles, the jemhadar just don;t have the crossbow arms on theirs. and iirc the visual effect of the energy bolts the hunters fired were a more primitive form of what got used for the jemhadar weapons.
 
- Try to start over somewhere else? It took him a lifetime to accomplish what he had. What would be the point of starting from nothing so late in life?

Maybe find some younger Bajorans he can mentor? He still has wisdom to share.

Odo once wished to have his cremated ashes placed in his bucket when he died. If the bucket was a Bajoran urn, imagine the ribbing Quark would subject him to about lying in the equivalent of a coffin, like Dracula.
 
Odo's bucket didn't seem to have a top, so if they wanted to put his ashes in it, they'd have to manufacture one. Unless they simply planned on scattering him on the Promenade.
 
Yeah, I don't think Mullibok is being super hyperbolic when he tells Kira that if she forces him to leave he'll die.
Maybe not physical death right away, but I think they did kill him when they forced him to abandon his home.

He'll spend his retirement years watching his favorite TV series, Hardcastle & McCormick. ;)
 
With the fascist movements in the USA, it also resembles the 21st century of the Star Trek novel Federation.
Agreed never thought the phrase spreading misinformation would be used so routinely. Crazy such an overtly fascist terminology is being used by state media up here in canada. Emergency powers being used to block protests etc.

Things really jumped the shark when I said I was against a war, and was publicly accused of being foreign asset, was like whoa. Vietnam all over again you aren't pro war therefore you're in league with the Kremlin.
Like even typing this makes me feel like someone is gonna be coming at me with accusations.
 
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Isn't that also because he has more, erm, room to evolve- within our frame of reference, that is? All those Starfleet people are already 'good' from the start, they can only mature a bit, gain a larger perspective on things.
I think its wildly exaggerated how bad he was. He's all bark and no bite.

Was like that from the start.

To me he's far more the immigrant in an environment where there's a great deal of bigotry against his societies and values.

So naturally he has a very antagonistic relationship with the locals.

When someone is antagonistic against virtually all your cultural values you tend to double down even when something is stupid.

There's a lot of parallels to thinly veiled antisemitism. They dress like goblins which has always been used as a thinly veiled way to describe jews.

There's also direct references to how people like him are the first to be targeted in any form of political revolution and his historically accurate.

Not to say he's the good guy, just that he's more consistent than you think.

Ferengi don't appear to have much violence in their history, and it doesn't seem like they have much classism in their society.

Also worth mentioning they seem to not be greedily as much as they are reckless closer to a gambling addict versus a person trying to control everything.

Seems they treat economics like a board game more than a system for power. Even the rules of acquisition sound like they rules to a monopoly game.

When I see ferengi society I see a people who want to play a game where anyone can risk it all and win.

Seems it could explain their absurd sexism as well. We see the women treat commerce as a means of stability. More like card counters at a poker game. Not saying you should turn your entire society into one stupid casino if the cost is hyper sexism, just that itd be logically consistent.
 
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That poor Alexander had two mother figures murdered. His real mother K'Ehleyr was stabbed to death when he was a kid. A decade later he gers the coolest stepmother ever in Jadzia Dax, and guess what....
 
Did the Federation and Starfleet ever question the decision to explore the Gamma Quadrant further, following Starfleet's initial contact with the Dominion?
 
AFAICR the only real exploration of the GQ that occurred after "The Jem'hadar" was when the Defiant would go in on its own.
 
In the commander's log in "MERIDIAN", Sisko mentioned he convinced Starfleet that exploration of the Gamma Quadrant should continue, which is why he and the Defiant were there during that episode.

And although Garak listed three Starfleet ships that were lost in the Gamma Quadrant, they could have been lost during season 1 and 2, since Garak did say those Starfleet soldiers were lost 'for years'.

But yes, the only time we hear or see exploration in season 3 onward is the Defiant.
 
You know, it hit me while my wife and I were rewatching "THE MAGNIFICENT FERENGI" during lunch today.

Yelgrun said, "And I thought the Breen were annoying." This implies that the Dominion was talking with them ever since DS9 was retaken.

So the Breen joining toward the end of season 7 may not be as out of nowhere as many may have thought.
 
We know shortly before the Dominion attacked DS9 that they'd signed a number of non-aggression pacts, so it stands to reason that they might have reached out to the Breen as early as that point, or potentially even earlier. Yelgrun's reference to the Breen could be construed as foreshadowing, but if the Dominion hadn't allied with the Breen it would still work as an off-hand comment.
 
We know shortly before the Dominion attacked DS9 that they'd signed a number of non-aggression pacts, so it stands to reason that they might have reached out to the Breen as early as that point, or potentially even earlier. Yelgrun's reference to the Breen could be construed as foreshadowing, but if the Dominion hadn't allied with the Breen it would still work as an off-hand comment.

Very true. Odo mentions the Miradorn and the Tholians after the Romulans signed the non-aggression pact.
 
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