Things That Will Never Be Answered

[Starborn Dragon]

I apologize if I came across as being out of line, I was simply curious.

But i have been wanting to read those Eugenics one for a long time. I think I'll put them on my wish list for Amazon.

 

[Granola Gwen]

The ending of TNG's "Conspiracy" comes to mind. Also "The Most Toys" ending... it still makes me ponder.

 

[Greg Cox]

I apologize if I came across as being out of line, I was simply curious.

But i have been wanting to read those Eugenics one for a long time. I think I'll put them on my wish list for Amazon.

No offense taken. This isn't the TrekLit forum, and Lord knows there are way too many Trek authors to keep track of . ...

(Hmm. That Wikipedia entry is a few years out of date, and missing some books.)

 

[T'Girl]

Why there is an energy barrier at the edge of the galaxy and around the center of the galaxy.

Well, I took a stab at that one in my "Q Continuum" trilogy

Diane Duane did as well, basically just as there is a heliosphere surrounding our solar system, with a bow shock where it encounters the interstellar wind, the milky way galaxy also has something similar to the heliosphere surrounding it and where this "runs into" the intergalactic medium the energy barrier is created.

The barrier therefor doesn't completely enclose the galaxy.

I admit it been a while since I read Wounded Sky.

 

[Autistoid]

Remember in Goldfinger, how Pussy Galore implied she was gay and "immune" to Bond's advances? Until he slammed her down in the hay and forced himself on her, anyway.
Ah, the sixties...

you mean the times right after when casual sex was frowned upon. Why do you think people had such sexually repressive attitudes.

People act like the vulnerability of woman has only been figured out in the last 20 years. It's always been a major concern of society for much of our history. It's a large contributor why religion was embraced for its ability to protect women.

Of course all that ignores the reality that bond is clearly a cold blooded killer, it's hard to really fixate to hard on the moral behavior of a fictional character.

I'd also question anyone who relies on fiction to build a set of morals.

 

[Greg Cox]

Why there is an energy barrier at the edge of the galaxy and around the center of the galaxy.

Well, I took a stab at that one in my "Q Continuum" trilogy

Diane Duane did as well, basically just as there is a heliosphere surrounding our solar system, with a bow shock where it encounters the interstellar wind, the milky way galaxy also has something similar to the heliosphere surrounding it and where this "runs into" the intergalactic medium the energy barrier is created.

The barrier therefor doesn't completely enclose the galaxy.

I admit it been a while since I read Wounded Sky.

I seem to recall that Peter David dealt with the Galactic Barrier in Q-Squared as well . ...

So I guess this is well-trodden ground, at least as far the novels are concerned.

 

[Starborn Dragon]

Remember in Goldfinger, how Pussy Galore implied she was gay and "immune" to Bond's advances? Until he slammed her down in the hay and forced himself on her, anyway.
Ah, the sixties...

you mean the times right after when casual sex was frowned upon. Why do you think people had such sexually repressive attitudes.

People act like the vulnerability of woman has only been figured out in the last 20 years. It's always been a major concern of society for much of our history. It's a large contributor why religion was embraced for its ability to protect women.

Of course all that ignores the reality that bond is clearly a cold blooded killer, it's hard to really fixate to hard on the moral behavior of a fictional character.

I'd also question anyone who relies on fiction to build a set of morals.

You mean, like the Bible?

The Bible is pretty much a made up work of fiction.

However, just because something is fiction doesn't mean there isn't any truth in it.

And if there is no truth in fiction, well, then fiction is pretty much dead.

You see, that's one of the biggest things that makes fiction popular, ire the things that we can identify with, and people can not identify with what they consider a lie.

And the use of fiction as allegorical and metaphor is a great way to illustrate and teach about morality.

 

[Sector 7]

I recall implied rape in other shows too. Obviously the restrictions of the era didn't allow anything graphic, but the power of suggestion got the point across.

+1

Seriously, they went through the trouble to take it off camera. Why would they actually do that if Lars wasn't doing something to her that couldn't be shown on camera? What else could selection possibly mean? Why would she scream if he was just trying to help her?

They did something similar in Wink of an Eye and left it open ended.

They could just as easily say Lars was trying to adjust her collar or put something else on her.

But what's so messed up about it is the story line . All 3 thralls had trays and were bringing food to them. Except Uhura's is the only specifically sent to have sex with her?

And so soon, instantly, just like that? Kirk and Chekov only had their food brought to them.

But other than that, agreed on how bold TOS was on the subject of rape. Also, Kirk definetly attempted to rape yeoman Rand in The Enemy Within.

"Charlie X" had Rand being sexually assaulted by Charlie. Poor Janice Rand was ever the victim. I did like the way she stood up to Charlie in that episode, though.

 

[Starborn Dragon]

There seems to be a blank spot between Enterprise and Encounter at Farpoint.

The trial that Q force Picard and his people to undergo is as follows:

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Q (JUDGE): Objection denied. This is a court of the year 2079, by which time more rapid progress had caused all United Earth nonsense to be abolished.

Broken Bow makes no mention of the atomic horror or how they got rid of all the judges.

So apparently they must have cleaned things up and gotten back on track, butt hey don't really seem to explain how.

Perhaps it was with the aid of the Vulcans since the flight of the Phoenix which was in 2063.

Or maybe the Atomic horror happened AFTER the flight of the Phoenix?

Hmmmm... wouldn't it be something if some time travelers interfered with earth's history to cause that atomic horror to delay or maybe even attempt to end the formation of the Federation?

Maybe even the sort of thing Section 31 was created to fight.

Now here's a thought, what if Johnathin Archer also secretly worked for Section 31?

Just speculating on the possibilities.

As my teacher used to say, I like to think that there are Always possibilities.




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[BillJ]

Broken Bow makes no mention of the atomic horror or how they got rid of all the judges.

Because it wasn't important to that story.

 

[Starborn Dragon]

Broken Bow makes no mention of the atomic horror or how they got rid of all the judges.

Because it wasn't important to that story.

The Vulcans kept implying it though by mentioning human's volatile nature.

 

[Nightdiamond]

Remember in Goldfinger, how Pussy Galore implied she was gay and "immune" to Bond's advances? Until he slammed her down in the hay and forced himself on her, anyway.
Ah, the sixties...

+1

Seriously, they went through the trouble to take it off camera. Why would they actually do that if Lars wasn't doing something to her that couldn't be shown on camera? What else could selection possibly mean? Why would she scream if he was just trying to help her?

They did something similar in Wink of an Eye and left it open ended.

They could just as easily say Lars was trying to adjust her collar or put something else on her.

But what's so messed up about it is the story line . All 3 thralls had trays and were bringing food to them. Except Uhura's is the only specifically sent to have sex with her?

And so soon, instantly, just like that? Kirk and Chekov only had their food brought to them.

But other than that, agreed on how bold TOS was on the subject of rape. Also, Kirk definetly attempted to rape yeoman Rand in The Enemy Within.

"Charlie X" had Rand being sexually assaulted by Charlie. Poor Janice Rand was ever the victim. I did like the way she stood up to Charlie in that episode, though.

Poor Rand, she was the Chief O'Brien of TOS. She was also the designated sex object of TOS.

Speaking on TOS's portrayal of rape, The Enemy Within may have been edited. There's a still out there of the Kirk attempted rape scene, but this one has him between her legs, pinning her down.

But this doesn't appear in the episode. So it looks like it was intended to be even more graphic.

Even the later Treks wouldn't show that much.

TOS never used the word-- it would imply or just flat out show it, within the limits of sixties TV.

 

[2takesfrakes]

One question I've always had is where did V'GER disappear to? Did it go to Heaven? I mean ... dissolving into all of that pure light and everything, it certainly gave that impression.

 

[C.E. Evans]

One question I've always had is where did V'GER disappear to? Did it go to Heaven? I mean ... dissolving into all of that pure light and everything, it certainly gave that impression.

It went to the obligatory HPOE (Higher Plane Of Existence) that most transcending life-forms go to in various science-fiction tales.

I heard it was a nice place.

 

[Kemaiku]

One question I've always had is where did V'GER disappear to? Did it go to Heaven? I mean ... dissolving into all of that pure light and everything, it certainly gave that impression.

Ex Machina answered this also (it, Buried Age and Watching the Clock answered a great many things about Star Trek in general) by having Spock still be connected to The Voyager (a new entity made of all three minds) as it travelled through the multiverse.

The connection weakens over a few months until The Voyager has moved too far beyond Spock's ability to still hear it, but it now explores every universe in turn, learning all it can about them.

I think in the Buried Age they imply it eventually ascends further to the great menagerie of energy beings where The Trickster (Q's real name, there is no Continuum) resides.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

I've said this many times, but it bears repeating: Something that I wish would be answered, but I know never will be, is how the hell Earth recovered from World War III so quickly!

I mean, come on. A hundred years after a NUCLEAR WAR and Earth is back to normal, with all cities rebuilt? No way. There had to have been other forces at work. Earth couldn't recover from a war like that in a millennium, let alone a century. At the VERY least, the Vulcans must have helped in the cleanup...

...but then how do you rebuild so quickly? It would take a hundred years to rebuild just ONE city, let alone all of them. And that's when you have an industrial base still functioning. A nuclear war would not leave any of that. How can you rebuild cities when there's nothing left to rebuild them WITH?

The Trickster (Q's real name, there is no Continuum)

Really?

 

[Starborn Dragon]

I've said this many times, but it bears repeating: Something that I wish would be answered, but I know never will be, is how the hell Earth recovered from World War III so quickly!

I mean, come on. A hundred years after a NUCLEAR WAR and Earth is back to normal, with all cities rebuilt? No way. There had to have been other forces at work. Earth couldn't recover from a war like that in a millennium, let alone a century. At the VERY least, the Vulcans must have helped in the cleanup...

...but then how do you rebuild so quickly? It would take a hundred years to rebuild just ONE city, let alone all of them. And that's when you have an industrial base still functioning. A nuclear war would not leave any of that. How can you rebuild cities when there's nothing left to rebuild them WITH?

The Trickster (Q's real name, there is no Continuum)

Really?

i think the Vulcans had a hand in it using advanced technology.

But that is one hole that hasn't been explained.

 

[Kemaiku]

The Trickster (Q's real name, there is no Continuum)

Really?

Yup, they describe the plane of existance where the energy beings live. It's an emense "place" filled with the ascended from hundreds if not thousands of different species from all over the universe.

It's presented as a much more diverse community, where they keep their personalities. Q is a tiny, misbehaved brat of a being that most of the community ignores.

Except when he torments the lower beings, they are slow to notice and act but don't take kindly to it.

 

[nightwind1]

All those various people encountered by voyager who were assimilated at wolf 359 by the single cube that proceeded immediately to earth and was destroyed pretty soon after....
maybe they assimilated the iconians and had little unseen portals to the delta quadrant in their cubes eh?

Also after 4 series and 10 movies of correct usage, the producers of " enterprise" dropped the prefix "the" when having characters refer to their ship
A habit all non starfleet humans and alien adversaries mysteriously picked up as well
Hearing "lock weapons on Enterprise " sounded weird as hell after 30 years of THE Enterprise.

Thankfully it's not something the new movies stuck with

Believe it or not, modern day US Navy doesn't use "the" in reference to their ships. That's the only reason it was dropped in Enterprise, to make it more consistent with real life.

Also, it can be argued that the writers were used to Voyager not using "the" simply because "the Voyager" just doesn't sound right.

When I was in the US Coast Guard, "the" was used sometime, not used other times. For example, my cutter was USCGC Sundew. Sometime we caller her "Sundew", sometimes we caller her "the Sundew", most of the time we called her "the ship" (occasionaly, we caller her "the boat").

 

[trekshark]

I've said this many times, but it bears repeating: Something that I wish would be answered, but I know never will be, is how the hell Earth recovered from World War III so quickly!

I mean, come on. A hundred years after a NUCLEAR WAR and Earth is back to normal, with all cities rebuilt? No way. There had to have been other forces at work. Earth couldn't recover from a war like that in a millennium, let alone a century. At the VERY least, the Vulcans must have helped in the cleanup...

...but then how do you rebuild so quickly? It would take a hundred years to rebuild just ONE city, let alone all of them. And that's when you have an industrial base still functioning. A nuclear war would not leave any of that. How can you rebuild cities when there's nothing left to rebuild them WITH?

The Trickster (Q's real name, there is no Continuum)

Really?

depends how many nukes were actually used in the war.
it takes a lot less than 100 years to rebuild a city after a nuke. Hiroshima and Nagaski have been rebuilt for decades already. Yes, that was with they being the only two nuked cities but I don't think trek's WW3 used nukes as much as has sometimes been implied.