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Spoilers Things that grind my gears about S3

What about lower decks, then? It’s the expected things for the looks and the morals, maybe, but very different for everything else.
And I still see that mixed reaction to it. But, it pays lipservice to the morals and that gives it more of a pass. It also looks right, which is a bigger thing for many that I read online, the looks mean more than anything else to be "Star Trek." So, I think the look has more weight.
 
And I still see that mixed reaction to it. But, it pays lipservice to the morals and that gives it more of a pass. It also looks right, which is a bigger thing for many that I read online, the looks mean more than anything else to be "Star Trek." So, I think the look has more weight.
People have a hard time with the comedy angle. I think because Star Trek is serious business and anything less is mockery. ;)
 
I can't believe people take issues with the detached warp cores. I mean its what 1300 years in the future and they can't have superconducting magnets? Im sure in reality technology will be way more impressive than anything we've seen on Star Trek.

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." Honestly, that's how I always deal with tech that "makes no sense." In other words: I really don't worry about it.
 
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." Honestly, that's how I always deal with tech that "makes no sense." In other words: I really don't worry about it.
they have to make sense *internally* to a world of fiction. The detached nacelles are totally doable with what we know with 32th century technology and quite justifiable, the huge turbolift chasm is much less simple to justify (it could all be a huge holodeck, but why would they do that? Speaking of this, why use a turbolift system at all when they can just beam anywhere on the ship?).
 
they have to make sense *internally* to a world of fiction. The detached nacelles are totally doable with what we know with 32th century technology and quite justifiable, the huge turbolift chasm is much less simple to justify (it could all be a huge holodeck, but why would they do that? Speaking of this, why use a turbolift system at all when they can just beam anywhere on the ship?).

My level of care of that particular "issue" is less than that of the detached nacelles "issue." I don't watch Star Trek for the technology making sense. And yes, its silly. But over the past 55 years of Star Trek, it is far from the first or worst example of silliness. If I don't let those things bother me, why would I let this?
 
I tend to enjoy more things that try to make sense. :shrug:

Then there must be much of Star Trek that you hate.

ETA: I honestly don't have time to rectify an entire fictional universe and the things that make sense or not. I watch to be entertained. I understand that others have different priorities but its not where I choose to exert my energy.
 
I don’t “hate” anything. There are things that I find stupid and lessen such enjoyment, sure.

And I rarely watch something for pure entertainment anyway...In fact I love when something can be though-provoking.
 
Then there must be much of Star Trek that you hate.

ETA: I honestly don't have time to rectify an entire fictional universe and the things that make sense or not. I watch to be entertained. I understand that others have different priorities but its not where I choose to exert my energy.
I think this is my separation point with a number of fan opinions too. I am more frequently running in to the expectation that it all makes sense. And, I'll be honest-the more I read of the BTS Trek and the different aspects done by the production team, the less I worry about it. The unified whole theory was perpetuated by ancillary materials as much as anything else. So, when things don't fit together there isn't the same safety cushion as before.

For some, that's a big old deal breaker. For many Star Trek has deep philosophical meaning. I'm not one of those people. I don't think Star Trek is any deeper than any other entertainment, and deeper meaning I can derive from many sources.

The tech side is just no longer a concern. I can either engage with the material as it is and work within it, or I will ignore it because it is too frustrating. Mileage will vary but my priorities first and foremost is just entertainment.
the huge turbolift chasm is much less simple to justify
I can still justify it even if it is silly on its face. :shrug:
 
And I rarely watch something for pure entertainment anyway...In fact I love when something can be though-provoking.

I'm not certain if you have kids, but I have a 22-month old son. I'd love to take the time to deal with more than pure entertainment, but when you have a kid, particularly one hovering around two? You add a job, a marriage and running a house? That takes a lot, and I mean, A LOT of your time and energy. I have books that are piling up that I try to find time to read but when I lie down to read before bed, I maybe make it a page before crashing. Its going to take me forever to get through that stack. The only reason I have time for TrekBBS these days is because I slack at work a bit.
 
Good for you, then.

I don’t have kids (we’re thinking about them, but a few years away still), but I can relate with not having much time on one’s hand.

On the other hand, keep in mind that writing stories is something I’ve been doing all my life and is important to me, so I always approach to a work of fiction from a somewhat technical point of view.
 
On the other hand, keep in mind that writing stories is something I’ve been doing all my life and is important to me, so I always approach to a work of fiction from a somewhat technical point of view.

I had no idea that you were a writer. You and I haven't mixed that much in your relatively brief time on TrekBBS. But your logic makes sense for your background. Again, others have other priorities. That's all I'm asking that some consider.
 
why would they need something like that?
Do you honestly want my own personal justification? Because I can write out a long and technical approach that pretty much only matters to me.
On the other hand, keep in mind that writing stories is something I’ve been doing all my life and is important to me, so I always approach to a work of fiction from a somewhat technical point of view.
I mean, I've been writing or creating in some way since I was 8. My Lego ships always had justifications as to why they worked a specific way. But, as I learned and studied the workings of production the more I strike a balance-it's a work of fiction meant to entertain. The details are not always going to be to my liking.
 
I had no idea that you were a writer. You and I haven't mixed that much in your relatively brief time on TrekBBS. But your logic makes sense for your background. Again, others have other priorities. That's all I'm asking that some consider.
Thanks. And again, there is absolutely nothing wrong with your approach, it’s just not for me.


Do you honestly want my own personal justification? Because I can write out a long and technical approach that pretty much only matters to me
actually this could be very entertaining!
In all honesty, as written above, I can imagine a way in a Star Trek context to have that huge space within the ship (basically: it’s all a holodeck), but am really struggling to find a reasonable motivation for it. Sure, I could go with something really outlandish such as that’s only there to confuse a boarding party (which is not likely to end up there, though, so...) or that the computer was malfunctioning, but those are, as said, quite outlandish.
 
actually this could be very entertaining!
In all honesty, as written above, I can imagine a way in a Star Trek context to have that huge space within the ship (basically: it’s all a holodeck), but am really struggling to find a reasonable motivation for it. Sure, I could go with something really outlandish such as that’s only there to confuse a boarding party (which is not likely to end up there, though, so...) or that the computer was malfunctioning, but those are, as said, quite outlandish.
Simply put it is for storage and repair. The turbolift is a system designed to facilitate rapid connection across the ship for crewmembers at any point in time. A new system was set up have carts inside and ready to deploy at a moments notice, rather than waiting for a limited number of cars. This also means that more maintenance space was required to allow for fabrication, repair, and coordination. The larger space allows for easier access and material storage, rather than pulling it in from other stores.
 
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." Honestly, that's how I always deal with tech that "makes no sense." In other words: I really don't worry about it.
In fairness the idea that a Mike can pick up my voice and transfer it by wire as electronic impulses and rebuilds exactly what I say in my accent half way across the world sounds like magic. And it has existed for years now
 
In fairness the idea that a Mike can pick up my voice and transfer it by wire as electronic impulses and rebuilds exactly what I say in my accent half way across the world sounds like magic. And it has existed for years now

That's nothing. Do you realize that we now have toasters that can grill three slices of bread at once!!!
 
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