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Spoilers Things that grind my gears about S3

They should all ave portable emitters by then... Maybe there's a planet of holograms somewhere... A demon class planet where organics can't go unless they're wearing super-EV- suits.

Or its possible they also are on an M-class planet. They COULD be on a virtually lifeless rock indeed, but I doubt there'd be a shortage of M-class planets in the Federation - even for a greatly expanded one.
 
I'm fine with the detached ship parts, especially considering Trek isn't the first sci-fi franchise/universe to do this (see: Jupiter Ascending). Plus the fact that those parts reattach for warp and spore jumps, I'm 100% okay with the concept (see again: Jupiter Ascending (where the parts reattach for FTL in that too...)).

My largest nitpick for the series is the turbolift chasm the size of a Borg cube. That thing should never have seen the light of day (neither should the turbolift rollercoast chasm from S2 either).

M/AM technology seems to be the mainstay of the galaxy because deuterium (M) and anti-deuterium (AM) are literally some of the most common elements in the universe (being isotopes of hydrogen, the most common element in the universe). Because of that, I see no reason for the Federation or anyone else to move away from M/AM power.

Regarding the difficulty of using other means of FTL transportation, benemite is already stated in VOY to be rare and not something that can be recrystallized (quantum slipstream regulator) and we're shown that the galaxy's transwarp corridors appear to have debris issues (past war with the Borg perhaps?). But, it is also nice to see that ships in the 32nd Century are commonly capable of using all these different forms of FTL (as stated by Booker that his ship is capable), just that each one requires something different that is hard to get a hold of or is unsafe to use.
 
Well, like the culminations/mystery to the major arc, this one fell short. I mean, 1 guy causes it to happen EVERYWHERE? It is just absurd.

However, I thought this is the best wrap up of any season. I have typically liked the first halves of the seasons much better, especially S2.

For me, S3 > S1 > S2. Though my favorite half season is the first half of S2.
 
Well, like the culminations/mystery to the major arc, this one fell short. I mean, 1 guy causes it to happen EVERYWHERE? It is just absurd.
I really don't understand why people have a hard time wrapping their heads around this. Dilithium. Subspace. Mutagenic properties. It couldn't be more Star Trek if it was rerouted through a plasma conduit and shot out the main defector dish.
 
I really don't understand why people have a hard time wrapping their heads around this. Dilithium. Subspace. Mutagenic properties. It couldn't be more Star Trek if it was rerouted through a plasma conduit and shot out the main defector dish.
Disco is the current Trek, so of course we have to hate on it and everything it does. Don't worry, when season 4 comes around, or season 2 of Picard or when SNW premieres whatever happens there will be considered so wrong that it will be hated while suddenly the Burn will be accepted as good.
 
I really don't understand why people have a hard time wrapping their heads around this. Dilithium. Subspace. Mutagenic properties. It couldn't be more Star Trek if it was rerouted through a plasma conduit and shot out the main defector dish.
See, if they said it like that it would be ok.
 
Disco is the current Trek, so of course we have to hate on it and everything it does. Don't worry, when season 4 comes around, or season 2 of Picard or when SNW premieres whatever happens there will be considered so wrong that it will be hated while suddenly the Burn will be accepted as good.

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You mean like how Enterprise is now considered good but at the time people thought it was the worst thing since the Nazi party? :guffaw:
 
I think that Enterprise rarely rose above average and was too derivative of what came before. Discovery on the other hand has taken Star Trek in a completely new direction. It's way more a Space Fantasy than previous Trek series in my opinion. It doesn't matter if something doesn't make sense in DSC, so long as it looks good - like the redesigned Klingons and the ships.

I saw an article on Star Trek.com where some scientists try to explain the burn.

"When Su’Kal cried out, he did so at the resonant frequency of the structure of dilithium, causing the subspace and normal-space portions of the crystal to dissociate. Because physics in subspace, the way it’s represented in Star Trek, is not limited to the speed of light, this associated shockwave occurred across a vast stretch of normal space almost instantaneously."

They don't seem to understand how sound waves travel though. The scream would only affect a small amount of the dilithium on the planet (within screaming distance). Otherwise all the dilithium on the planet would be gone - and it isn't. We just have to accept it.

What the happened to the music that everyone was recognising plot thread?
 
I don't know about that. I just remember when it aired everyone called it The Worst Star Trek Ever, then when Enterprise was on, it became The Worst Star Trek ever, with Voyager suddenly being remembered fondly.

Really, the whole thing kind of reminds me of how my uncle describes Doctor Who fans back in the 1980s. The current episodes were considered utter shit until five years later when they got reassessed and determined to actually be decent episodes which were misunderstood at the time they originally aired and are far superior to the utter shit which is currently airing.
 
I don't know about that. I just remember when it aired everyone called it The Worst Star Trek Ever, then when Enterprise was on, it became The Worst Star Trek ever, with Voyager suddenly being remembered fondly.

Really, the whole thing kind of reminds me of how my uncle describes Doctor Who fans back in the 1980s. The current episodes were considered utter shit until five years later when they got reassessed and determined to actually be decent episodes which were misunderstood at the time they originally aired and are far superior to the utter shit which is currently airing.
Voyager was the worst Trek till ENT came along.
But I have heard a lot of people since lockdown talking about enjoying it more on rewatch. This has way more got to do with Berman fatigue than anything to do with DIS.
Haven't heard many people change their mind on Voyager. Most people thought it was crap till 7 came along and still feel that way
 
There's little daylight between VOY and ENT in my mind, with the first two seasons of ENT in particular just feeling like VOY with a different cast.

But VOY benefitted at least from a stronger overall cast (and standouts like Ryan and Picardo, and interesting characters which meant a lot of the "character focus" episodes stood out. In contrast, I feel like just about every effort to do character-focus episodes in ENT failed.
 
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There's little daylight between VOY and ENT in my mind, with the first two seasons of ENT in particular just feeling like VOY with a different cast.
But VOY benefitted at least from a stronger overall cast (and standouts like Ryan and Picardo), and interesting characters which meant a lot of the "character focus" episodes stood out). In contrast, I feel like just about every effort to do character-focus episodes in ENT failed.

Ironically the token eye candy was often the only interesting character in both shows
 
There's little daylight between VOY and ENT in my mind, with the first two seasons of ENT in particular just feeling like VOY with a different cast.

But VOY benefitted at least from a stronger overall cast (and standouts like Ryan and Picardo), and interesting characters which meant a lot of the "character focus" episodes stood out). In contrast, I feel like just about every effort to do character-focus episodes in ENT failed.
agreed: the first two seasons of enterprise seemed pretty much rehashes of the least interesting episodes of voyager. Nothing necessarily terrible, but a lot quite boring an unimaginative.
 
Rightly or wrongly by the time Enterprise rolled around that era of Star Trek had run out of steam. There'd been 15 unbroken years, plenty of which had had multiple series airing at the same time, films as well, all with the same core group of writers, producers etc.

I don't think Enterprise was particularly bad - I just think that by then that 90s incarnation of Star Trek was tired. I don't know that the cast was necessarily any weaker than what had come before but what went against them was that the franchise was running on empty by the time they were handed the baton.
 
I don't know that the cast was necessarily any weaker than what had come before
I don't know about this…For the first time since it was new I recently convinced myself to do a rewatch, I'm currently midway season 1 and I really am disliking Archer a lot…He just doesn't seem "captainy" to me, being usually pushy, arrogant and rude to people. I didn't remember having the same feeling fifteen years ago, but again, it was fifteen years ago and perhaps he'll get better later.

The others are really underdeveloped at this point and I know that a couple of them will never see much development…
 
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