That silly gold stripe just means they're fancy waiters.
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That silly gold stripe just means they're fancy waiters.
This x1000!
The primary reason that TATV will NEVER be "canon" to me is that it took place on a Holodeck. And I don't believe that the 22nd century computer they have can record EVERY SINGLE interaction abourd Enterprise, so that a future Riker can show up and be-bop into any ole body and be "the fly on the wall" that sees EVERYTHING.
I chose to believe Barclay wrote this "extra speculative " holo program...
For me, Terra Prime is the END..until the Enterprise series books came along. A couple of those authors do a very good job of taking what was given, even with TATV, and making sense of it..and then expanding on it with lots more detail and characterizations.
Starborn Dragon
Captain
I liked this episode.
NYAH!
NYAH!
You are perfectly entitled to that opinion. After all, Trek is about diversity and open-mindedness.
Kor
No. He is wrong.
hm, I also enjoyed it. I don't really get the hate.
I don't get people who don't get the hate. ENT fans went to great lengths to explain why they hate it, and they've been doing it for an entire decade.
Hell, this thread is literally 21 pages of "why we hate TATV".
I finished my rewatch of the series by watching TATV last night (after putting it off for a week). The set for Rigel X looks crummy, probably because they spent so much money rebuilding the Enterprise D. When I'm feeling strong, I should rewatch it with the Okuda text commentary, which hopefully will say how much of the TNG set survived to be reused in ENT. The conference room table looked like the original, but I can't believe they saved the huge Ten Forward set for all those years.
Despite all the Riker/Troi blather, I have no idea how the ENT holodeck simulation was supposed to help Riker with his situation...
Should Riker tell Picard he was involved in an illegal cloaking test? I dunno. How about we see Archer help Shran save his kid, then Trip blows himself up, then Archer gives a speech? That should settle the matter.
The idea that the holodeck could accurately recreate people and events from the NX-01 doesn't stand up to even a moment's scrutiny.
Despite all the Riker/Troi blather, I have no idea how the ENT holodeck simulation was supposed to help Riker with his situation...
Should Riker tell Picard he was involved in an illegal cloaking test? I dunno. How about we see Archer help Shran save his kid, then Trip blows himself up, then Archer gives a speech? That should settle the matter.
The idea that the holodeck could accurately recreate people and events from the NX-01 doesn't stand up to even a moment's scrutiny.
Bam!I finished my rewatch of the series by watching TATV last night (after putting it off for a week). The set for Rigel X looks crummy, probably because they spent so much money rebuilding the Enterprise D. When I'm feeling strong, I should rewatch it with the Okuda text commentary, which hopefully will say how much of the TNG set survived to be reused in ENT. The conference room table looked like the original, but I can't believe they saved the huge Ten Forward set for all those years.
Despite all the Riker/Troi blather, I have no idea how the ENT holodeck simulation was supposed to help Riker with his situation...
Should Riker tell Picard he was involved in an illegal cloaking test? I dunno. How about we see Archer help Shran save his kid, then Trip blows himself up, then Archer gives a speech? That should settle the matter.
The idea that the holodeck could accurately recreate people and events from the NX-01 doesn't stand up to even a moment's scrutiny.
So, if we suppose that EVERY single interaction is being recorded by this oh-so-advanced computer that I believe Trip said was 3 or 4 decks high (from "Dead Stop")---can we assume that all intimate encounters - including Trip/T'Pol - were recorded too?
And I am also clueless how this all helps Riker...
I was wondering if Troi's conversation with Data about giving him a "rain check" was from the TNG episode. It's not. Does that mean they got Spiner to record the part specially, or was it from another episode?
Looking at the transcript of Pegasus, Troi has four lines in the opening scene (she's running a children's arts-and-crafts event!), and that's it.
Turns out I was wrong about them rebuilding Ten Forward - they reused footage from TNG. I will have to rewatch to see how they did that trick.
Article about this:
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/observations/ent_vs_tng.htm
Looking at the transcript of Pegasus, Troi has four lines in the opening scene (she's running a children's arts-and-crafts event!), and that's it.
Turns out I was wrong about them rebuilding Ten Forward - they reused footage from TNG. I will have to rewatch to see how they did that trick.
Article about this:
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/observations/ent_vs_tng.htm
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