These Are The Voyages, Volumes 2 and 3 of the volumes covering the 1970s.

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  1. Kor

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    Lowest price seems to be around $33 or $34. It will probably be a few years before you can find second-hand copies much cheaper than that.

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  3. Maab

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    So, I've been reading Volume 2 (the only one available on Amazon so far) and I can finally answer to my own question:

    No. Cushman did have access to the screenplay dated June 30th 1975, but he only summarized the first part, more or less the same already available through Roddenberry's podcast (a little more actually).

    Other screenplays Cushman had access to are:
    - Treatment by Jon Povilll dated August 28th 1975
    - Story outline by Roddenberry & Povill dated January 7th 1976 (only one version mentioned)

    The Roddenberry Archives don't have the very first Planet of the Titans treatment (should be September/October 1976), so only Roddenberry's reactions to it are reported. Three more drafts are mentioned.
    But they do have the (most precious) Bryan and Scott first draft script dated March 1st 1977. No detailed synopsis here either.

    Also the Kaufman's rewrite (shoud be April/May 1977) is absent from the Roddenberry's archive. None of the (several) other writer's proposals are present either.

    The most interesting thing (so far) is the Jon Povill's rewrite script for "The Nine", with a scene where Gene Roddenberry invents Star Trek under alien influence. What more could you ask for?
     
  4. Lord Garth

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    I hope there's a legal reason why he couldn't summarize the rest of the screenplay. Otherwise, it's one thing to not have access to the material at all, but another thing entirely to have access and do nothing with it.
     
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    There's no legal reason I can think of. Relating the plot of a story doesn't violate Copyright.

    I plan to write a summary of Star Trek II 1975 (what everyone calls "The God Thing"), if I can force myself to relive the horror that is Kirk vs. the scantily clad oiled babes on a billowing airbag sport scene.
     
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  6. Lord Garth

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    Then my opinion of the book has gone way down. It's supposed to be as comprehensive of a look at Star Trek as possible and have as much information in it as is available to the author... and he held back.

    We're looking forward to it, so take one for the team. ;)
     
  7. Maurice

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    I suffered through Roddenberry's Tarzan script. This will be a piece of cake by comparison.
     
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  8. Harvey

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    Thankfully it’s not nearly as long as Roddenberry’s Tarzan!
     
  9. Maab

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    Please do.
     
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    I had no idea he had anything Tarzan related
     
  11. BillJ

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    Did he hold back? Or did Cashman simply not do the work to begin with? Based on his reputation, I'd say the latter. Easier to just reprint what is out there than do the research.
     
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  12. Lord Garth

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    I think anything called "These Are the Voyages" is cursed to not be good.

    Forget "even/odd" or "divisible by five".
     
  13. Harvey

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    Since it's being discussed in another thread, does The Tribunes (also known as The New Tribunes), which was developed with Sam Peeples from 1973-77, come up in any of these three volumes?

    What about a Roddenberry police script from about 1973 called "Blue Line"?
     
  14. Maab

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    "The Tribunes" is covered (not in great detail) in Volume 1 (1970-1975). While I don't think "Blue Line" is ever mentioned.
     
  15. Maurice

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    Does it discuss the time frame The Tribunes was to be set in?
     
  16. Maab

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    No, he only says it was "futuristic".