And more importantly, which side would the pirate ninjas be on?
The Wizards versus the "Muggles"
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And more importantly, which side would the pirate ninjas be on?
Lets leave this thread at least please within the context of the Harry Potter series where there are only regular humans and wizards.
For me it's just fun speculation and quite frankly if Rowling was so inclined a logical extension of the book series where the Muggles fight the wizards because so often they are portrayed as inept and in most cases run away from wizards in fear.
Harry Potter's adoptive family is an example of where the muggles are depicted as totally inept.
His adoptive family weren't "inept," they were cruel and abusive and used as a narrative device to alienate the reader/viewer from "muggles" and have them identify with Harry and the other child wizards.
I imagine the muggles of the HP world are more or less like humans in our world--so not particularly inept or stupid, just unfamiliar with (and not generally believing in) magic.
I imagine the muggles of the HP world are more or less like humans in our world--so not particularly inept or stupid, just unfamiliar with (and not generally believing in) magic.
Actually, I'd say more people believe in magic in the real world than in Harry's. That's very, very sad.
Not by the 6th film. They are depicted at least in the film fleeing the house in fear.
So you'd say they've oblivious? How could anyone be oblivious to people disappearing into a brick wall at a train station? Or for that matter riding upside down on a motorcycle through a tunnel?
Except the muggles who have magical people in the family. The Dursley's, for example, weren't magical at all, but they were perfectly capable of accepting that magic existed. They didn't like it, but they were aware of it.
I get the impression that magic like that works in such a way that Muggles either can't see it or instantly forget it.
You know, there is actual research into the fact that people don't notice nearly as much as they think they do--even "weird" things. Most people are just not that observant.
Yeah, but considering the number of Wizards, that would be a tiny fraction of the Muggle population. If anything, Wizards would actively promote disbelief in magic, as it would make their efforts at hiding more likely to succeed.
I'd imagine it would be similar to the Jedi. They make good policemen and can hold their own against decent sized groups of foes, but if you stack them up against armies they're going to need armies of their own to lead, like the clonetroopers.
You can bomb people all you want, but you still have to be able to occupy territory when you're done if you don't want them to rise up again.
You can bomb people all you want, but you still have to be able to occupy territory when you're done if you don't want them to rise up again.
Well, sure, the Wizards aren't exactly going out of their way to advertise their existence. You can't blame Muggles for not noticing things that are intentionally being hidden from them.
Plus we know that the wizards have no issues with modifying the memories of muggles who publicly blab about that amazing thing they saw last night.
Who actually knows? It could be a badly keep secret. We don't have much knowledge of the muggles outside what Hermoine and Harry tells us (and they are pretty isolated it seems). People may know wizards exist but they are so rare they don't affect their lives and they don't therefore care.
Think about how many muggles who may have children or spouses or family members who are wizards. That's a small but significant minority. I mean no one seemed freaked out that Hermoines' parents were muggles.
There are spells that conceal everything that's overtly magical from the view of Muggles, except for the select few who know of the Wizarding World. From the author herself:
Q: Can Muggles see Hogwarts?
A: When they look towards it, as a safety precaution, they see a ruin with a sign saying it's unsafe. . .they mustn't enter. They can't see it as it really is.
http://www.accio-quote.org/articles/2000/0700-swns-alfie.htm
Yes and this is why HP is fantasy. In the real world every teenager, drug addict, treasure hunter, amateur historian, and archeologist would be crawling all over Hogwarts, keeping the staff busy.
That's a good analogy, thank you. Valdemort = Emperor Palpatine and the rest of the 'good wizards,' are the members of the jedi council.
So like with wars the magic in Potter nor the 'force,' in Wars can defeat technology en mass.
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Well, it depends on the story. In some of the Star Wars EU stories individual Jedi and Sith can take out armies (the original Clone Wars cartoon where Mace Windu destroys an army of droids himself and the Dark Empire comic where Palpatine takes out entire armies, fleets of ships, and the surface of a planet spring to mind as extreme examples), but I was mostly going by how the Jedi were depicted in the original movie trilogy and prequels.
A sniper could kill a wizard before the wizard even knew he was there. Obviously I feel intelligence groups such as CIA, M6 or whatever british one is called know something about them, the way they drive their cars and buses around muggle world with reckless abandon cctv in England would of long since spotted them, and America if nothing else would of gotten that knowledge from them
