Can't wait for the You Are Cordially Invited review: it's my favorite light, low stakes episode in the franchise.
Spoilers The Way of the Warrior. Was it really a good idea for Sisko to get Worf?
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Meh. I just assumed it's all in the stations computer. Have we ever seen an indication personal logs and such are on a personal air-gapped system?
The Klingon wedding Scene is very good, Jadzia's outfit is sexy.
I thought the wedding scene was way too American 20th Century. A Klingon wedding should have its own traditions. This was just American with minor rewrites.
Both raised great points, in a fantastic scene. Whatifisms aside, what if he didn't bleed? (Then we'd have a different story and Ben had a legitimate point on families being infiltrated as such. That whatifism aside, how often do experienced chefs miss the mark by a just enough millimeters? I bet he did it deliberately. Unless he didn't. Is that a howism?
)...In contrast, the "Changeling" at Antwerp might well have been faked by Leyton, who'd have a much bigger motivation to bomb the conference than the Founders would.
I guess a Changeling in the guise of Joe Sisko would be clever indeed to pull a repeat of "Martok" "bleeding", after having passionately argued that this proves nothing. He has now sown seeds of confusion and discord, but is personally safe from closer examination because Ben is way too embarrassed to proceed with such. If Starfleet on its own came to the conclusion that the blood test is worthless, this might actually boost morale. When not...
Timo Saloniemi
I guess a Changeling in the guise of Joe Sisko would be clever indeed to pull a repeat of "Martok" "bleeding", after having passionately argued that this proves nothing. He has now sown seeds of confusion and discord, but is personally safe from closer examination because Ben is way too embarrassed to proceed with such. If Starfleet on its own came to the conclusion that the blood test is worthless, this might actually boost morale. When not...
Timo Saloniemi
The person who gives the test has all the answers.Both raised great points, in a fantastic scene. Whatifisms aside, what if he didn't bleed? (Then we'd have a different story and Ben had a legitimate point on families being infiltrated as such. That whatifism aside, how often do experienced chefs miss the mark by a just enough millimeters? I bet he did it deliberately. Unless he didn't. Is that a howism?
Unless the answer is wrong. Especially on computer and after seeing the results you look up and verify that the database was programmed incorrectly, and not just "thinking along the lines of the one who wrote the questions", which isn't a bad thing in terms of perspective and point of view but usually with testing for knowledge it's not about perspective but a "what is". That's the fun part.
Yes I think it was a good idea and it turned out to be very good for Worf. And with Jadiza being so into Klingons in many ways, helped him a lot. And also he got to do a ton of thinking about himself and what he wanted and what it means to be Klingon. So yes I think it was a good idea.
It was not a "mistake" on the part of the writers, it was a deliberate choice. They were stating that Worf and Martok never met, and thus the Martok we "met" in WotW was ALWAYS a changeling and thus blood screenings were never actually reliable, something that was hinted in other episodes like "Apocalypse Rising" and "Homefront."
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I'm sure this has already been proposed, but I haven't gone through the whole thread. To the original question, Worf wasn't just a Klingon, he was a Klingon who had a lot of influence in the Empire, and was a personal friend, or political ally of Gow'ron, so it was good thinking on Sisko's part to involve Worf. It also wasn't a bad way to remind Gow'ron of how he became Chancellor and how important two Starfleet officers (Worf and Picard) were in making that happen.
A strange irony... by killing Duras, Worf orchestrated Gowron's succession to the chancellorship. Ten years later, he orchestrates his... ah, departure.
And I take back what I said before. Adding Worf to Deep Space 9's motley crew wasn't a good idea... it was a great idea!
And I take back what I said before. Adding Worf to Deep Space 9's motley crew wasn't a good idea... it was a great idea!
At that moment in time Sisco was getting desperate for a solution; his closest mentor, Jadzia, reminded/advised him that...' only Klingons could deal with Klingons'. Worf was available and turned out to be a tremendous asset to the DS9 universe.
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