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The Walking Dead Season 6 Discussion

Viruses can be vegetative, ie, inserted in a host genome but not active, and then you could postulate that an infusion of fresh, active viruses sets the whole thing off. Could work that way.

But virues still can't make a dead body work. That death is the other trigger for walkerization makes no sense, as the body is now useless to any host organism outside of those that simply feed on it. Morpheus' nanomachines could work, though, as they presumably would get their energy from some outside source (solar powered?).

Then the issue is not calling it a "virus," and assume it was something man made, only I hope it would come off as wacky as the explanation given in the Day of the Dead remake (yeah, THAT Nick Cannon epic), where the zombie-izing was born out of some sort of weaponized virus designed to:

paralyze enemy troops by shutting down their neuro system for six to seven hours. We didn't think it would mutate. Come on, this would have allowed us to capture people without killing them.It was intended to save lives.

...which says nothing about the dead becoming cannibalistic, among other things.
 
It proves the audience--a group spending time trying to predict every event of the TV series, and complaining when it does not fit their theories--were wrong to think the producers were just milking the emotion/notoriety surrounding the comic death, and will actually follow through. If they do kill Glenn, it will silence the "fake out" crowd, while firmly sending the message that next to no character from the "A team" is safe.

Yeah but at this point with the fake outs with Glenn I don't think anyone really cares anymore. Well I don't anyway. If Glenn dies I won't bat an eye and honestly don't care anymore. The show will supposedly be going to a mourning mode after the first episode next season. Yeah that ought to be a barrel of laughs. I honestly think TWD is running out of tricks because as we all know the comic will never end and for a TV show to just keep going non stop like a soap opera is going to really bore the audience especially now that the producers say they are never planning on letting us know what started the zombie virus and that there isn't going to be any type of cure.
 
"Now" that they let us know that? They've been saying they had no intention of going into the how or why of the apocalypse since the beginning, just as the comic writers have. What we saw at the CDC was it. The apocalypse is just a backdrop for the show; it's never been about the actual apocalypse itself.
 
I don't need some stupid explanation for the virus. There's literally nothing that could satisfy anyone. TWD is gaining more viewers every season. I guarantee next year's premiere will be sky high. There's not going to be a mass exodus over a cliffhanger the internet collectively decided to hate for a week.
 
I don't need some stupid explanation for the virus. There's literally nothing that could satisfy anyone. TWD is gaining more viewers every season. I guarantee next year's premiere will be sky high. There's not going to be a mass exodus over a cliffhanger the internet collectively decided to hate for a week.


Its wash, rinse, give us another bad cliffhanger and repeat at this point. Starting to get boring.
 
Yeah but at this point with the fake outs with Glenn I don't think anyone really cares anymore. Well I don't anyway. If Glenn dies I won't bat an eye and honestly don't care anymore. The show will supposedly be going to a mourning mode after the first episode next season. Yeah that ought to be a barrel of laughs. I honestly think TWD is running out of tricks because as we all know the comic will never end and for a TV show to just keep going non stop like a soap opera is going to really bore the audience especially now that the producers say they are never planning on letting us know what started the zombie virus and that there isn't going to be any type of cure.

Well that is kind of a downer. Lost and BSG had storylines that reached some sort of logical conclusion. I'll be disappointed if TWD keeps rehashing the same thing over and over until, what, a 65 year old Rick is leading the last handful of survivors, fighting off yet another group of crazy hillbilly bikers? Bleh..
 
The show will supposedly be going to a mourning mode after the first episode next season. Yeah that ought to be a barrel of laughs.

...which is the next step: extreme mourning. They did not do that after the deaths of Beth or Tyreese--just various individual dealing with it, but even that did not take center stage of the episodes.

I honestly think TWD is running out of tricks because as we all know the comic will never end

That's the biggest threat to the TV series: TWD comic is Kirkman's career crutch, as he knows he has not created anything else even approaching the public awareness/success of TWD. He's likely gambling on the notion that as long as he keeps TWC comic alive, AMC will continue to generate seasons, which in turn keeps him paid, and allows him to pursue projects with little to no buzz (ex. Outcast coming in June).

For the series' part, they will need to consider the "rinse and repeat" effect beyond Negan, otherwise its on to the next sadistic enemy leader...and more death watch.



Well that is kind of a downer. Lost and BSG had storylines that reached some sort of logical conclusion. I'll be disappointed if TWD keeps rehashing the same thing over and over until, what, a 65 year old Rick is leading the last handful of survivors, fighting off yet another group of crazy hillbilly bikers? Bleh..

Well, what are the options--other than the series take its own direction and stop adapting the aforementioned sadistic enemy leader / death watch? If they do not take a radical direction change, your idea of a 65 year old Rick (or whoever leads the group when Lincoln decides to quit) fighting off the latest gang will become a reality.
 
As we've gone over several times there's worlds of difference between our group's (Rick's) kills and Negan's.. Can you really not see tell the difference between Rick killing The Saviors, a group of people we're told kill if The Hilltop doesn't pony up enough of their supplies, or Rick shooting at a man who may be associated with that group and a group of people who ambush others on the road and demand all of their things? Or stroll up to communities and demand half their thngs and kill someone as a show of force?

Rick shooting at the man looking for a horse was a bit extreme but the man also didn't come out to talk on Rick's first offer so his trust was thin at that point.

There's huge differences between what Rick is doing and what Negan and The Saviors are doing. Rick kills in a measure of self defense, even if pre-emptive self defense like with the group at the sat. station, Negan and The Saviors kill as a show of force and intimidation.
 
Was replying to this:

Does anyone not realy care who is the one that got whacked by Lucille. I am really losing interest in this show quickly. The supposed heroes(Original survivors) are really just as bad as the black hats. How is Negan killing one survivor in Ricks group with a bat really anymore evil then Rick shooting people in the head just because they won't give him information, killing people in their sleep or shooting at a guy and trying to kill him just for looking for his horse? I was actually rooting for Negan at the end of the episode after all the evil that Rick has done. Nah the show is just gotten too stupid with two equally bad sides now. Maybe the new comers with the armor will give us a group that has kept their morals throughout all of this by not outright murdering and using flimsy excuses such as "I don't take chances anymore" to murder such as Rick has done.
 
I know this has been in the rearview for many of you, however, I just did a watch on this season. Saved up on the DVR and I managed to avoid spoilers this year(not even those FB entertainment sites got me this year!)

I found the season to be very well done. The writers have done a solid job of keeping the drama high, the stakes high while developing characters from Alexandria. I had thought we were going to get Negan much, much earlier in the final back 8 episodes of season 6. The fake out with Abraham & Sasha on the road meeting a Negan scout group then subsequent run-ins felt like quite the build up. Was not disappointed when we finally got to Negan.

The "doctor" of Alexandria dying did not surprise me, it was all but telegraphed when Darryl and Sasha let her go out with them. Her excuse of "being able to identify what is needed" didn't matter cause they were going to clear the Pharmacy out. Like Eugene she was trying to build some self-respect and not be seen as a full liability to everyone else. Her death...meh.
So we still don't know who Negan ended the episode as his piñata, right? He also said it would be a beating not necessarily a death...cause he wants them to work for him & Rick, you already killed so many of my men. Therefore I need replacements in you. My money is on Abraham having taken a beating but not being dead.

It seems clear that Morgan and Carol will sway this other group at some point to lead an attack on the Saviors but not before someone else, or several, of our crew finally die. A friend and I were saying something exactly like I saw in these last few pages....I feel I need to know what a possible "end game" is for the show. Fighting roaming bad guy camp #24 in season 18 is just not appealing. Where are you going, what is the exit strategy?
 
It's a death. In the comics it's a death. The producers say it's a death. Everyone says it's a death. Someone dies. That's the "shocker" of it.
 
To have a shocker next season (i.e. The ends) would be to kill off Rick. Extreme emotional residue with something that is unexpected.

For the endgame, they should have the crew meet an acTUal stable civilization that spans the mid country...farms and oil drilling in the north, oil refinery in the south. A nation rebuilding...slowly but surely...And this place turning out to be real.
 
The problem is that everyone turns. For the civilization to be stable, they'd need to protect against people dying and turning (natural causes, car accidents, fights, accidents, etc.).
 
The way the world has been set up, as long as people are knifed through the head when they die and as long as people are aware that this is what happens then it shouldn't be impossible to imagine society rebuilding. The zombie "virus" then would be far less of a threat than things like Ebola considering it doesn't appear to be spread through contact with the blood or air.
 
Just one more thing for mortuaries to do.

With how quickly the turn happens I doubt they could wait until a mortuary. WouLD need to always have a knife and be ready.

I actually think those romantically involved need to stop sleeping in the same room in a rebuilt society. You are a heart attack/aneurism in the sleep from your partner of being snacked on. Everyone in their own rooms with doors shut/locked. Hospitals restraining any patient in case of death.
 
With how quickly the turn happens I doubt they could wait until a mortuary. WouLD need to always have a knife and be ready.

I actually think those romantically involved need to stop sleeping in the same room in a rebuilt society. You are a heart attack/aneurism in the sleep from your partner of being snacked on. Everyone in their own rooms with doors shut/locked. Hospitals restraining any patient in case of death.
The morticians, EMTs, doctors, nurses, caregivers....all need to be packing.
 
The "doctor" of Alexandria dying did not surprise me, it was all but telegraphed when Darryl and Sasha let her go out with them. Her excuse of "being able to identify what is needed" didn't matter cause they were going to clear the Pharmacy out. Like Eugene she was trying to build some self-respect and not be seen as a full liability to everyone else. Her death...meh.

Agreed.

A friend and I were saying something exactly like I saw in these last few pages....I feel I need to know what a possible "end game" is for the show. Fighting roaming bad guy camp #24 in season 18 is just not appealing. Where are you going, what is the exit strategy?

The problem is that the show follows the template of the comic, and its inherently flawed, since Kirkman, et al., rinse and repeat the next psychotic leader of bad people idea. The one way to shake things up is to move the series toward what many fans want: finding a truly rebuilt society not in any danger of collapse. Or, if the TV producers had a pair, they would end the series with the death of the survivors. Before anyone says, "that's not leaving on a hopeful note," its realistic, which is one of the reasons Romero's original Night of the Living Dead was so stark and powerful--after all of its social and horror elements were played to the hilt, in the end, no matter what anyone tried to survive, ultimately, they were all doomed.

Of course, AMC will never do this, but its a far more significant comment on the ZA (and logical bookend) being exactly as Dr. Jenner described it in season one: this is man's extinction event. It would make more sense of than just a relaunching of society, which does not really work, since there will always be legions of zombies surrounding you from every city, countryside or state, always looking for food, so in one way or another, that threat has no conclusion.
 
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