The Walking Dead Season 6 Discussion

[TREK_GOD_1]

Which is some revisionist history that ignores what actually happened, as Rick knows that Daryl showed up with the medicine they needed not long after Carol did what she did. He may have meant that he would have made the same decision as she did at the time, but saying that she was right to do it just ignores what actually happened.

They never knew what specifically caused the virus, or what it was; it was all guessing. It would have been mistaken to throw the term "flu" around, when flu as they knew it never caused such extreme reactions such as eyes to blacken and bleed. It was pure luck that the very late drugs Daryl's crew retrieved worked at all, but one thing was certain: while Daryl's crew was away, Hershel was faced with more deaths from the disease, and yet another walker outbreak, since no true contingency plan for the infected was ever put in place, so the only way to stop it was Carol's way.

 

[hux]

More filler as far as I'm concerned. These last few episodes should all have been titled "WHO'S GONNA DIE... WHO'S GONNA DIE" cos somebody's gonna.

Nothing else is really happening. People going off to the woods for dumb reasons. It's all about the Negan reveal and who gets Lucilled. And you just know they're not gonna show us anyway. Cliffhanger.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

More filler as far as I'm concerned. These last few episodes should all have been titled "WHO'S GONNA DIE... WHO'S GONNA DIE" cos somebody's gonna.

Nothing else is really happening. People going off to the woods for dumb reasons. It's all about the Negan reveal and who gets Lucilled. And you just know they're not gonna show us anyway. Cliffhanger.

Yes, they had dumb reasons for running off into the woods (after facing dangers for how many years in-universe?), but can you think of a better way to get half of the heroes kidnapped to be batting practice?

 

[Ethros]

Well I got told off last half-season for posting something remotely negative about the show, but I have to say, another silly death fake out? After the Glenn one it's poor to do it yet again. As if they'd just kill off Daryl like that and start the next episode like "yep, he's dead, anyway.." Lame.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

Perhaps that's a flaw of the source: death as a plot motivator; the show--being more condensed--seems to smother the audience every three or four episodes with the "WHO'S GONNA DIE... WHO'S GONNA DIE" (thanks, hux) and after a time, it will inspire more "who cares?" than interest. Eventually, everyone will be bumped off on the show, so explore something really interesting...not just morbid scare tactics.

 

[bbjeg]

This last episode felt like a filler. Though things happened, it all could have been told in a minute. I'm still not on board with Carol's reason for leaving and that "He'll be OK" at the end was lame. They should have just ended on the gun shot and started the next episode with him alive. The show has been pretty good lately so a slow of pace (and odd actions to cause conflict) was inevitable.

Can't wait to see what happens next.

 

[hux]

I still don't buy Morgan's circle of life argument? Firstly, I just didn't find it remotely convincing that the Wolf would go from feral, psycho to noble hero in such a short period of time. But fine, let's suspend disbelief and say that he did change and as a result, his new-found respect for life was directly responsible for then saving Denise (who in turn saved Carl).

That still doesn't change the fact that A) Morgan sparing him meant that he very probably killed others before arriving at Alexandria and B) Denise ended up dead because of Dwight (a man whose life was also spared by Daryl) so the circle argument fails. Killing the Wolf would have possibly meant no attack on Alexandria. Not killing Dwight meanwhile DID result in Denise being killed.

The Walking Dead universe once again demonstrating that as soon as you start caring, you start dying.

Carol fans beware.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

The Walking Dead universe once again demonstrating that as soon as you start caring, you start dying.

Glenn has been a consistently caring person all along--so has Carl (running to save the stranger surrounded by walkers / wanting Spencer to be the one to put down zombie Deanna, etc.), but they are still alive. Yes, we know Glenn could have been saved for Negan, but he's got remarkable longevity for a caring person in the ZA.

 

[bbjeg]

Carl had his issues. Don't forget that guy he killed at the prison, that guy who was surrendering.

 

[hux]

And Glenn has finally become a bad guy. Doesn't get much worse than killing people while they sleep.

 

[EmoBorg]

If Glen dies, i predict Maggie will hook up with Negan and will have a son who likes wearing all black.

 

[hux]

Any conspiracy theories about the guy looking for his horse? I've read some stuff that it was Negan but I don't buy that. Could turn out to be someone important though.

 

[trekkiebaggio]

Any conspiracy theories about the guy looking for his horse? I've read some stuff that it was Negan but I don't buy that. Could turn out to be someone important though.

I read a theory that it was...

Spoiler

Someone from the Kingdom, which is another group that is involved in trade with the Hilltop and Saviors and is led by a very interesting character who has a really cool pet

 

[Grendelsbayne]

They never knew what specifically caused the virus, or what it was; it was all guessing. It would have been mistaken to throw the term "flu" around, when flu as they knew it never caused such extreme reactions such as eyes to blacken and bleed. It was pure luck that the very late drugs Daryl's crew retrieved worked at all, but one thing was certain: while Daryl's crew was away, Hershel was faced with more deaths from the disease, and yet another walker outbreak, since no true contingency plan for the infected was ever put in place, so the only way to stop it was Carol's way.

Carol's way didn't stop anything. Viruses don't work like that, and the two of them were already quarantined from the rest of the group specifically to prevent further infections/walker outbreaks. She killed them for no good reason. And she risked making herself sick in the process (which would've then caused the virus to spread even faster).

 

[Arrrrgggh]

They never knew what specifically caused the virus, or what it was; it was all guessing. It would have been mistaken to throw the term "flu" around, when flu as they knew it never caused such extreme reactions such as eyes to blacken and bleed. It was pure luck that the very late drugs Daryl's crew retrieved worked at all, but one thing was certain: while Daryl's crew was away, Hershel was faced with more deaths from the disease, and yet another walker outbreak, since no true contingency plan for the infected was ever put in place, so the only way to stop it was Carol's way.

Did you not read anything I wrote?

I said it was some seriously revisionist history on Rick's part. What he meant to say was "I would have made the same decision Carol made," not "it was the right thing to do." Or at the very least "it was the best decision given what we knew at the time." Because both he and us, the audience, now know that it wasn't the right thing to do since a cure did, in fact, show up shortly after they were murdered.

There's a huge difference between those things, particularly when speaking of it as a past event. It doesn't matter one iota what the illness was, how it was contracted, why it was so virulent, or anything else. Rick knew when he said that that there was a cure, and he knew it worked and he knew killing them was unnecessary. So saying Carol was right, with that information in hand, is patently false.

 

[Silvercrest]

Any conspiracy theories about the guy looking for his horse? I've read some stuff that it was Negan but I don't buy that. Could turn out to be someone important though.

They should tie it back to S1. "My name's Negan! I lost my horse outside Atlanta when this all started! Still looking for the thieving SOB and I want the horse back!"

 

[Ethros]

I read a theory that it was...

Spoiler

Someone from the Kingdom, which is another group that is involved in trade with the Hilltop and Saviors and is led by a very interesting character who has a really cool pet

Spoiler

In the comics I know he was the leader of that group, but he was also introduced as a love interest for Michonne. But seen as she's taken Andrea's role in the comic as Rick's new beau, then I doubt that storyline will happen. So I wonder if they'll bother with him or not.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

Had a dream last night that the episode ended just before Negan's first swing makes contact and being disappointed. Unfortunately don't really remember who he was striking, my dreams are usually quite fuzzily recalled if at all.

 

[theenglish]

Shouldn't we be avoiding spoilers from the comics?

 

[Push The Button]

Still waiting on the French to find and deploy the cure. Dr. Jenner said they were the closest to figuring it out.

Civilization would take a long long time to recover in any case, since the WD world is now in a modern day equivalent of the Dark Ages.