The Walking Dead Season 2 Discussion *Spoilers*

[PsychoPere]

One thing that's always been unclear to me about all zombie flicks - both this one and on the big screen - is how walking dead people could successfully overtake armed living people with guns, flame throwers, drones, and even nuclear weapons.

There was quite a bit of discussion on this in the season one thread.

I still wonder why they haven't ransacked every sporting goods store they can find to stock up on crossbows and teach every adult how to use one competently.

In the second episode of season one, Glenn said that it was the first time he had taken a group with him into Atlanta; his other excursions had been solo. Presumably he focused on food and similar items, and of course that first time with a group got interrupted by the need to rescue Rick. After that, they only went back into the city twice - to retrieve Rick's guns and Merle, and to get to the CDC. After the CDC, they headed straight out of the city because the implosion would've brought walkers swarming.

So the comics are irrelevant to making predictions about what is or isn't going to happen in the series.

I wouldn't say the comics are irrelevant. The producers have been very clear that the comics are going to be the roadmap by which the series proceeds, but, yes, of course they are going to detour to differing degrees at various points. Shane may still be alive, but I expect they'll still hit most of the same "big" points; we are, after all, headed straight in the next episode for a location that was important in the comics. Plus Robert Kirkman is an EP and writer, so it stands to reason that there will continue to be significant overlap between the comics and this series.

In any event, I don't think what sojourner posted is what Jenner told Rick; I think it's the other issue that has also previously been mentioned in spoiler code. That one results in some significant storytelling, so I'd be surprised if the series doesn't go down that road.

 

[sojourner]

Morgan is the guy from the premiere played by Lennie James. I can't recall if he whispered anything to Rick, but I was talking about what the CDC scientist whispered to Rick. His name was Jenner.

Morgan came into the picture because Rick was leaving a message for him (which he may or may not ever hear). Rick was almost going to tell Morgan what Jenner whispered, and then decided not to. That whole scene struck me as significant, and provides a clue about what Jenner whispered: something that Rick might think Morgan should know, and then change his mind about. Why would he do that, unless it's something startling and important, but also unbelievable?

And they're obviously not hewing to the comics, since Shane is still alive. They might take some stuff from it, but and leave other stuff out. So the comics are irrelevant to making predictions about what is or isn't going to happen in the series.

And my theory is different than what you put in spoiler code anyway, so I don't see how it's even relevant to this discussion.

Ah, right, I meant Jenner. As for how relevant the comics are, you do know the writer of the comics is an executive producer and also on the writing staff for the show?

As for what I put in spoiler code, it's in direct response to what you said in post #72:

The first scene, with Rick leaving a message for Morgan, struck me as odd in context with the theory that the scientist told him Lori was pregnant. Why would Rick hesitate to tell Morgan about that?

I think the news was something more startling, and something that could impact Morgan - and everyone - directly. I'm sticking with my zany theory that the scientist told Rick that he's infected with the zombie virus, which might be something of extreme importance (is Rick immune? if some people are naturally immune, that's huge news!) but is also too fantastical to believe. He'd want to tell Morgan something like that, but then decide, nah, why get the guy's hopes up, it must be bullshit or a mistake.

How can you not see it's relevance in the discussion? It refers to a fact from the comic book that the show is based on which pertains to the line of discussion in the 2 posts directly preceding it. You can't get much more relevant in this thread.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Thanks, sojourner. The contents of your spoiler was actually my next guess; I haven't read the comic, but that spoiler makes sense.

 

[sidious618]

Thanks, sojourner. The contents of your spoiler was actually my next guess; I haven't read the comic, but that spoiler makes sense.

Spoiler: spoiler

We've seen people stay dead, though.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Thanks, sojourner. The contents of your spoiler was actually my next guess; I haven't read the comic, but that spoiler makes sense.

Spoiler: spoiler

We've seen people stay dead, though.

Spoiler: question

Not everyone in the interstate traffic pile up turned into a zombie. Does this mean that the virus just killed them outright?

 

[sidious618]

Thanks, sojourner. The contents of your spoiler was actually my next guess; I haven't read the comic, but that spoiler makes sense.

Spoiler: spoiler

We've seen people stay dead, though.

Spoiler: question

Not everyone in the interstate traffic pile up turned into a zombie. Does this mean that the virus just killed them outright?

Spoiler: Spoiler

That's what I was wondering about. They'd certainly been dead for a while, too. I'm thinking it'll be explained at some point.

 

[sojourner]

Yeah, the scene with Carl retrieving the zombie killing "kit" is all messed up. Why is that dead body in the truck? the door was closed, did whatever zombie attacked it close the doors? If bitten, why did it not reanimate? If not bitten, why was it dead in the truck? The same could be asked for almost every body found in a closed space.

As for my earlier spoiler post, that revelation takes place much later in the comics, so there may be a time issue there.

 

[Immolatus]

Yeah, the scene with Carl retrieving the zombie killing "kit" is all messed up. Why is that dead body in the truck? the door was closed, did whatever zombie attacked it close the doors? If bitten, why did it not reanimate? If not bitten, why was it dead in the truck? The same could be asked for almost every body found in a closed space.

As for my earlier spoiler post, that revelation takes place much later in the comics, so there may be a time issue there.

I think maybe they don't comeback when they die, that might explain the dead bodies in the cars. ever been stuck in traffic on a hot summer afternoon in the south with no ac? now imagine that but can't open windows and swarms of the undead around. ur gonna die in a few days if not sooner.

 

[McCoy]

Another thing that Jenner could have whispered, since he tested everyone, is that not only is Lori pregnant but that Shane's the father.

 

[sidious618]

Another thing that Jenner could have whispered, since he tested everyone, is that not only is Lori pregnant but that Shane's the father.

I don't think so because why would Rick almost tell Morgan that and then cut off. It seemed to me to be something that could possibly affect Morgan.

 

[Tom]

Ok I guess we are doing one S2 thread rather than individul theads? anyway episode 2 is almost on yeah!

 

[JD]

Damn, I'm glad I got on here, because I totally forgot about TWD tonight. D'oh!

 

[The Master of Tarquin Hill]

Much better than the 1st ep. I hope they keep up the good work. I read somewhere (probably in this thread) that the first ep was a mash-up of two episodes that were weak on their own. If this is the only hurdle that this show faces this season, we are in for some quality entertainment.

 

[Scout101]

Really? Thought this one was a pretty weak filler episode, mostly. Which isn't great when we're doing 6-episode seasons. I mean, what happened? Other than Shane running to the school, which was the last couple minutes, nothing really happened. Everything that happened in this one could have been the first 2 minutes of next week's episode, and I'm not sure you'd have missed much.

With such short seasons, I'd like to see a little more progress each episode.

 

[Ryan]

My friend who originally turned me onto the show fears it's going to become a "Zombie Soap opera."

He better start hoping they don't follow the comic too closely because Kirkman loves him some melodrama (Rick has had something like three mental breakdowns at this point).

 

[Agent Richard07]

Looks like they're going with a slower pace which is what you need for a zombie show. That's not a bad pun, it's just that there's only so much you can do with a zombie threat, so a long-running series needs to take its time so as to not exhaust its limited story potential too quickly.

 

[TheBrew]

Really? Thought this one was a pretty weak filler episode, mostly. Which isn't great when we're doing 6-episode seasons. I mean, what happened? Other than Shane running to the school, which was the last couple minutes, nothing really happened. Everything that happened in this one could have been the first 2 minutes of next week's episode, and I'm not sure you'd have missed much.

With such short seasons, I'd like to see a little more progress each episode.

This season is 13 episodes. I haven't seen the 2nd one yet, but I have a good guess of who shot Carl and what happened to Sophia based on the comics.

Spoiler: Comics Stuff

I am assuming that Sophia found her way to the farm and that Hershel shot Carl. I want to see if Lincoln can do Rick all rage crazy like he was in the comic.

 

[FreezeC77]

I dunno why, but this makes me laugh

 

[auntiehill]

Really? Thought this one was a pretty weak filler episode, mostly. Which isn't great when we're doing 6-episode seasons. I mean, what happened? Other than Shane running to the school, which was the last couple minutes, nothing really happened. Everything that happened in this one could have been the first 2 minutes of next week's episode, and I'm not sure you'd have missed much.

With such short seasons, I'd like to see a little more progress each episode.

Huh. I really liked this episode. I thought there was a lot going on. We had:

Spoiler: second episode stuff

a boy having surgery while wide awake, we met the family at the farm, found out that T-Dog was paranoid and very ill, got a little more background on the day Rick got shot, as well all the action at the high school. How in the hell are they going to get out of THAT?

 

[FreezeC77]

I don't understand why they wouldn't make a distraction much further away to draw the zombies there rather then just have the move maybe a couple hundred yards away(if that)