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"The Walking Dead" best new series of the season?

I think we have different sized seats.

For me, the first series of Survivors, the remake, was better than The Walking Dead, in the post apocalyptic genre.


I watched all of the BBC Survivors was good, but had no living dead to menace the living...a catalyst for the suspense of a scary threat.;)

I thought the living in Survivors were WAY scarier than these Zombies.

A much better catalyst for stories and conflict.

They were scary in Survivors, but image how much scarier if in addition the Survivors had living dead too.
 
I watched all of the BBC Survivors was good, but had no living dead to menace the living...a catalyst for the suspense of a scary threat.;)

I thought the living in Survivors were WAY scarier than these Zombies.

A much better catalyst for stories and conflict.

They were scary in Survivors, but image how much scarier if in addition the Survivors had living dead too.


Well... if they were SCARY living dead, then I would agree. The living dead in Shaun of the Dead were scary. But, I'm having a hard time getting scared of these particular zombies. They just don't scare me.

Now, if they had a zombie HORSE, which is where I thought they were going with the Cop's horse, that would be AWESOME.

That would be something new. Something original. Scary. I mean, come on, if ANY animal could become a zombie? Now that would be scary.

These slow moving extras? Meh.
 
I thought the living in Survivors were WAY scarier than these Zombies.

A much better catalyst for stories and conflict.

They were scary in Survivors, but image how much scarier if in addition the Survivors had living dead too.


Well... if they were SCARY living dead, then I would agree. The living dead in Shaun of the Dead were scary. But, I'm having a hard time getting scared of these particular zombies. They just don't scare me.

Now, if they had a zombie HORSE, which is where I thought they were going with the Cop's horse, that would be AWESOME.

That would be something new. Something original. Scary. I mean, come on, if ANY animal could become a zombie? Now that would be scary.

These slow moving extras? Meh.

I agree with you on all these points. I would like to see zombie animals too. Shaun of the Dead was a great movie.
 
Or they rip off a comedy (the Shaun of the Dead moment)


I don't think it's fair to criticize a work that was created years ago for including a scene that a genre spoof included just b/c the spoof was filmed first.


I think it is. It's not like the new work is spoofing the spoof.

It's a MEMORABLE scene in Shaun of the Dead. It's in the same genre. The creators of the comic AND the TV show have to know about that scene.

They are LIFTING from a comedy. Or a zom-rom-com.

OK--I just looked at release dates. The comic came out in 2003, while Shaun came out in 2004.

So, the comic got there first. Fair enough.

However, doesn't mean the TV show should've done it.

But, fair enough.
 
It's good but not the best new show of the season. Boardwalk Empire, Terriers and Rubicon are better.

I agree.

I think it is. It's not like the new work is spoofing the spoof.

It's a MEMORABLE scene in Shaun of the Dead. It's in the same genre. The creators of the comic AND the TV show have to know about that scene.

They are LIFTING from a comedy. Or a zom-rom-com.

OK--I just looked at release dates. The comic came out in 2003, while Shaun came out in 2004.

So, the comic got there first. Fair enough.

However, doesn't mean the TV show should've done it.

But, fair enough.

You're almost right, the scene in the comic was in Walking Dead #4 which was published in January 2004.

And I strongly disagree that they should have not put into the tv-show just because some other movie years ago had the same idea. This is crucial for the whole zombie physics in the Walking Dead universe and touches on how the zombies interact, their perception and their abilities. Changing this or ignoring it would fundamentally change the whole story! And for what? Just so fans of some semi-obscure comedy film don't have their sensitive geek sensibilities hurt?
 
Maybe it is just because I've seen so much tv and so very little of this is new or groundbreaking especially when it comes to dramas exploring the human condition but I just don't see what is so great about it--it is extremely overrated.

I think that much of the praise of the show relates to the relative small budget that AMC had to play with versus the quality generally of the show - the acting, the realism of the Zombies and generally the character development and writing.

Had NBC made a similar show with $2 million/episode budget much less praise would be heaped by the critics on the quality of the show.
 
I don't know if he did, but Kirkman says in that issue that he would die happy once he got Romaro's nod. :)
 
I like this series a lot. It ranks as second best of the new season for me; as I enjoy No Ordinary Family the most.

I saw the graphic novels in the bookstore yesterday, I was tempted, but a friend advised me not to read them, because it'll give away future episode plots.
 
I think that much of the praise of the show relates to the relative small budget that AMC had to play with versus the quality generally of the show - the acting, the realism of the Zombies and generally the character development and writing.
I think it's simpler than that: it's a damn good show! The writing, acting and production values are excellent. The show respects the audience's intelligence. It doesn't just go whole-hog for the most cliched and obvious approach. The emotional content is valid and earned by the writing, not just imposed because the writers want it that way.

The characters are written so that their brains seem actually engaged in solving the problems they confront. Nobody acts stupid for the convenience of the plot. The story doesn't rely on gimmicks like "big conspiracy we aren't telling you about to sucker you into believing that whatever crap we come up with will have been worth it and by the time you realize it isn't, it's too late, ha ha." We all know the gimmicks, and we're sick of them. We're happy to stumble across an honestly written, intelligent show with characters we can root for. I don't give a flying frak about zombies, but this is one of my favorite shows on TV now.

I dunno about anyone else but I've been feeling desperate for anything worth watching on TV. Broadcast is a wasteland. Cable has a smattering of worthwhile shows but only enough that I'd have three or four shows to watch at any given time. I just ramp up Netflix to take up the slack but with 500 channels, why is the selection so paltry?

I keep thinking: if only Jericho had been like this.
Had NBC made a similar show with $2 million/episode budget much less praise would be heaped by the critics on the quality of the show.
Would NBC even make a show like this? Even for AMC, it was a huge risk, which is why they only made six episodes and are now caught flat-footed by the sudden success. There have been no zombie shows on TV. Even the broader horror genre is rare on TV. Zombies seem like a very odd fit for AMC's assumed highfalutin' audience. But with subscription revenues, AMC can take a risk that broadcast can't. Risk is the only way to ever come up with anything truly worthwhile.
 
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