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The Very Specific Reboot Star Trek Needs

Seeing them trod the same ground over and over again instead of branching out shows that they don't care all that much about going beyond, as seen by the constant "recapturing" the glory days in recent shows. It comes off as cheap in my opinion.
I wonder who makes these decisions - I'm under the impression that the "it's got to be about Spock's sister visiting the Mirror Universe and fighting Klingons" or "it's Pike watching The Menagerie and going 'aaah' when he sees himself in a wheelchair, and his security officer talks about Space Seed and Arena" type stuff comes from a single showrunner, and the writers are just stuck working inside that framework.

The new writers are capable of writing solid middle-of-the-road Star Trek that's relatively standalone and not reliant on callbacks, and showed they could do it with parts of SNW S1, it just seems that the machinery that produces these shows is often working against that.
 
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the producers just want to milk more and more money out of it as much as possible. They couldn't care less about the quality of their work or how it is seen by the fans.

It is my honest take on this matter. If you have a different one, that is fine.

It's an accusation aimed at actual people rather than a comment about the show. When you talk about people and say you know what they think, it's a stretch to say hey, that's just my opinion, man.
 
It's an accusation aimed at actual people rather than a comment about the show. When you talk about people and say you know what they think, it's a stretch to say hey, that's just my opinion, man.
I think you are misunderstanding what I am saying and taking it in a different direction than what I intended.
 
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I think you are misunderstanding what I am saying and taking it in a different direction than what I intended, however, I can't control that.
Actually, you can. Words and context matter. If you’re not pleased with the production of the current team making Trek, it’s totally fine to say so. You are speaking of your views and perceptions.

However, accusing the team of “not caring” about the quality of their work without any evidence of the lack of care itself isn’t an opinion, it’s an unsubstantiated allegation. A more careful framework for the observation can go a long way towards eliminating, or at least greatly reducing, a condescending tone.
 
Actually, you can. Words and context matter. If you’re not pleased with the production of the current team making Trek, it’s totally fine to say so. You are speaking of your views and perceptions.

However, accusing the team of “not caring” about the quality of their work without any evidence of the lack of care itself isn’t an opinion, it’s an unsubstantiated allegation. A more careful framework for the observation can go a long way towards eliminating, or at least greatly reducing, a condescending tone.

There was no condescending tone in my statement, at least, to me it didn't sound that way. I don't see what the problem is with what I was saying so I'm not going to make a big deal out of it and continue to bring attention to something that wasn't my intention at all.

If you don't like what I was saying, that is fine, you are entitled to your opinion. We'll just agree to disagree.
 
I think you are misunderstanding what I am saying and taking it in a different direction than what I intended.

There was no condescending tone in my statement, at least, to me it didn't sound that way. I don't see what the problem is with what I was saying so I'm not going to make a big deal out of it and continue to bring attention to something that wasn't my intention at all.

Well, this is the key part that I may or may not be misunderstanding.

They couldn't care less about the quality of their work or how it is seen by the fans.

Every interview I've seen or read with the people who make the show, whether producers, writers, cast, or others, convinces me that they care very much about the quality of their work, that they're actually enthusiastic about it. And since they work in a business, obviously they have to care about how the viewers will react.

What am I missing?
 
Having watched Trek decades before the 1956 movie, I would say that Forbidden Planet not only had a similar tone, but could even be described as a precursor.

I would absolutely call TOS Forbidden Planet: The Series, and have no problem at all with that. (Obviously it became more, but it certainly was that in its essentials.)
 
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Seeing them trod the same ground over and over again instead of branching out shows that they don't care all that much about going beyond, as seen by the constant "recapturing" the glory days in recent shows.

Got to say, Starfleet Academy feels pretty different from Strange New Worlds, which feels pretty different from most of Discovery, which feels pretty different from Picard, etc.
 
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