Especially in Japan and South Korea. Work culture there is very intense.
The Tricom Badge
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Well, yeah, you DO have to have a job. As long as you have bills to pay.
And maybe I should explain why I went off on a rant like that. Because it happened to my favorite baseball player, Dave Dravecky. They had to amputate his pitching arm because of cancer. He was faced with an existential crisis. "Who is Dave Dravecky? If I can no longer pitch, what am I going to do with my life?" That type of thing. So that's another reason I got all personal like that.
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That is not your identity nor who you are as a person.
Sorry, it wasn't intended as anything pejorative. It's just that societally, a lot of American culture tends to be based around the primacy of work. So this concept of conflating your identity with your job tends to be an American point of view that isn't found as much, or at least to the same degree, in other parts of the world. It's not a slight--you can't help being immersed in the culture you live in.
There's lots online that discusses this topic. Just as one small example, one of the very first questions an American will ask when meeting someone new is "what do you do?", because one's job is assumed to be a large part of--and in many cases, the most significant part of--one's identity.
(I think in many cases, the younger generations are pushing back against the primacy of work, but societal change is slow, and it's in corporations' interest to keep the status quo.)
You question was framed around identity ("if you lose your job, who are you?"), and I was just pointing out that this is often a uniquely American point of view. Not that it's never seen elsewhere, but it's more likely to be seen in American culture.
And this is what I'm talking about. You're tying your personal value and identity to what you do for a living. As you rightly note, this kind of worldview does cause a significant identity crisis for the person holding it when the livelihood is taken away.
There's a somewhat good chance my own job will be rendered largely obsolete by advances in AI within the next few years. If that were to happen, then yes, it would cause me a huge deal of stress... because that removes my source of income, which in our capitalist society, would make my life significantly more difficult. So yes, it would cause a lot of hardship. But it wouldn't fundamentally change who I am as a person.
Sorry, I know this is probably a bit off topic from transporter use in Star Trek's 32nd century. I just find it an interesting discussion.
off topic completely but i’m actually in awe of the way you so eloquently and (more importantly) clearly explain your thoughts/point of view. Something I dream of omg
I am aware of that - now
- but it doesn’t change the fact that, to pay the bills, you DO have to have.a job.Unless you’re rich.
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Identity =/=necessity.I am aware of that - now
Unless you’re rich.
Let me be blunt: I was raised to strive for a higher degree so I could get a good job and make money. So I did that...and I don't make money. I live paycheck to paycheck as costs go up. So, I have a necessity of looking at other employment because of it. I have gained additional skills after my regular work hours to work in another field if necessary. I have worked several jobs that I could not imagine being in for the rest of my life or as a career. At one point, maybe my identity was in getting a degree, but no longer. It's not worth it.
So, what happens to the badges if you have two that lock on to each other and initiate transport at the exact same moment? Like, ever have two mirrors face each other to generate that tunnel to infinity?
Where do they go? What happens to the people transporting?
Where do they go? What happens to the people transporting?
They get Tuvixed
Thank you for the insight! What I had read on the topic had lead me to believe this wasn't as big a thing in Europe, but I'm not sure I've ever seen anything that discussed variances among the individual European countries, and of course, I have no first-hand experience in that area. I really appreciate hearing your observations!
Most definitely! That is certainly another part of the world where this is prevalent. After I had posted, I had thought about editing the post to put something in about that, but I figured it was off-topic enough as it was, and I didn't think anyone would care.
My understanding is that it was a similar situation in Hong Kong as well, at least before the return to China. I don't know if this is still the case post-return.
I'm sorry to hear that. Cancer is awful.
I don't really know how to respond to that.
Thank you, though, that is very kind of you to say. 
They have perfectly good AI 1100+ years from now that could differentiate in nanoseconds. Scale up your thinking.
Technology in the 32nd century, especially the Tricom badge, seems magical and sometimes even incomprehensible to us. However, this does not exclude the possibility of the existence of other methods of transportation, such as true transporters. While the Tricom badge is likely the more common and convenient means of transportation in the 32nd century, there may be scenarios or situations where more traditional means of transportation are used, including physical devices such as transporters.
To a 23d century being, 32d century tech seems mostly like magic.
The transporter function of the badge confounds me now. In the 2nd episode this season it seems that it needs to be connected to the ship. I thought the transporter badge was self contained tiny transporter and didn't need the ship. I might be wrong. Let's not forget that data saved picard with a transporter badge back in the late 24th in star trek nemesis. I believe that badge was connected to the ships transporters. So the transporter function doesn't seem to be a huge leap except maybe for the speed of transport..
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21st century tech would seem like magic to a 19th century person. The speed of advancement is increasing!
Jules Verne: "Hold my beer."
The avg person thought Verne was fanciful.
Imagine explaining a computer, smartphone, a 3D printer, nanomaterial, quantum computer, or a fusion reactor to someone from 1870.
Then try explaining TikTok.
Self-heating meals. Instant coffee. Bubblewrap. The walkie-talkie. A Cree flashlight. Cat laser pointer. Freeze-dried ice cream sandwich. Wireless earpods. Starlink. The microwave oven. Non-stick cookware. Air conditioning.
"TikTok is the forked tongue of the Devil himself. Deception, depravity everywhere. An eternal noise of fear and extortion. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy."
"TikTok is the forked tongue of the Devil himself. Deception, depravity everywhere. An eternal noise of fear and extortion. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy."
In season 3, it was all the badge, hence Book and Michael beaming across a world. In season 4, they realized they made it too powerful and retconned it to merely be an interface for the ship transporter... meaning they went down when it did/the plot required it.
Ah so the badge is connected to the ship now. That answers mu earlier question. When book and Burnham where beaming across that world I think his ship was in orbit so I guess we can say they were connected. They should not have gone so far in the future. The tech would advance much more than it has and even where they have advanced it its hard to believe they would have much to fear from species with lesser tech. I would have preferred them to time traveled to 2399 and be in the same time line with the current tng crew. They could have been amazed with those advancements and carried in from there. 930 years is too much to honestly believe starfleet and the Federation are still using warp drive, transporters, phasers, communicators and warp drive. Yeah they have all advanced but not a whole lot. The programmable matter is obviously an extension of replicators.
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