Spoilers The Strange New Worlds Starship Thread™

[blssdwlf]

Yup. And my parameters are quite narrow.

But you have some interesting exceptions with the Stargate and Halo ships.

 

[fireproof78]

But you have some interesting exceptions with the Stargate and Halo ships.

Not all ships count.

 

[Dukhat]

Because in 1968 Desilu/Paramount paid for a new Klingon ship model, and they wanted to see that model used as much as possible so it became the default ship for the Klingons and the Romulans.

Yes, I know the real reason why the D7 was used. I was talking in-universe.

 

[blssdwlf]

Not all ships count.

Oh? As in... Halo and Stargate ships don't have any problems with radiation shielding, etc? Or they just get a pass as you like them aesthetically?

 

[shipfisher]

I'm a have my cake and eat it too kind of guy. I have a somewhat inclusive (this being as woke as I get) preferred lineage of 1701 refits on an 8 year cycle that keeps all my fave takes on my fave ship and their crews in the game:

2239 - TOS original
Shatner-Kirk and co. have their adventures 1st, of course. They would need altered names to precede everyone else, but the era could be depicted as in the 1960s with maybe a slight visual massage or two

2247 - John Eaves original Discoprise concept
This is basically the SNW 1701 with straight nacelle pylons/struts as originally signed off.
Marc Bell has some great renders over at Artstation.
I'd have this as Robert April's ride

2255 - SNW as is
John Eaves design with TMPized nacelle pylons/struts

2263 - Madkoifish re-imagined Connie
Yeah, yeah..not canon in any way, but I love it and it fits nicely between the SNW version and...

2271 - TMP refit
Right on schedule, but with a crew I can't even agree with myself on. Possibly Pine-Kirk and crew, but I'd prefer them in Dennis Bailey 's Challenger class, which is basically the TMP Connie refit with JJprise nacelles.

I could go on, but this is all just a flight of fancy and I really should be getting back on my meds...

 

[fireproof78]

Oh? As in... Halo and Stargate ships don't have any problems with radiation shielding, etc? Or they just get a pass as you like them aesthetically?

If ships get a pass because I like them for looks then Star Trek would have more entries.

 

[Mr Awe]

Yeah, the idea that every Federation ship in that era was a connie is silly.

I'm actually glad to see a different type of Federation ship in that era. That didn't happen in TOS, but we're getting that now.

 

[blssdwlf]

If ships get a pass because I like them for looks then Star Trek would have more entries.

I was just guessing since the Halo and Stargate human ships don't look to have any more radiation shielding than the TOS Enterprise.

 

[fireproof78]

I was just guessing since the Halo and Stargate human ships don't look to have any more radiation shielding than the TOS Enterprise.

That isn't the only qualifier.

 

[wayoung]

I always like the old interpretation that the Connies were the first/only Starships in TOS and all other vessels were mere spaceships. Bigger, faster, more power, such a leap in technology and abilities to be a whole new division of ship - sails to steam, man of war to ironclad.

Then by the time the movie era came there were many more.

Of course Trek killed that interpretation dead long ago.

 

[NCC-73515]

It honestly doesn't.

And this comes from a guy who owns several models of it and has the cross section hanging above my bed.

Compared to most other SF ship classes, it doesn't. The only ships that look worse are the Ambassador (not the original design, the final one) and kitbashes like the Yeager or Niagara or Freedom...
But it is the hero ship of many of my favorite episodes, and its look was established and confirmed again and again as the Prime look, ugly or not, in later shows, and in tech manuals, and in countless comics, games, novel covers, all kinds of ship diagram reference drawings, until Disco and SNW changed it. All other Enterprises, except the C, look much better, but I still prefer consistency. If it's established to be ugly in 2266, then that's how it is.

 

[blssdwlf]

That isn't the only qualifier.

I'm figuring as much

 

[fireproof78]

I'm figuring as much

Glad we have an understanding then.

 

[blssdwlf]

Glad we have an understanding then.

 

[F. King Daniel]

The SNW interior sets are fantastic. The ship itself? Well, I like the new windows on the saucer but the whole thing is too squished still. And the bridge window is a complete mess - instead of moving the bridge forward in the dome as was done in the 2009 reboot, the window "frame" extends for like ten meters on the exterior model but not at all on the interior sets.

 

[shipfisher]

So the Farragut can hold warp 9 for a useful, if still limited, dash as of 2266. Maybe that funky, swept towards each other, nacelle arrangement facilitates top end performance. Still sort of ugly, like every new BMW generation, but growing on me...like every new BMW generation.

 

[Fandango831]

So the Farragut can hold warp 9 for a useful, if still limited, dash as of 2266. Maybe that funky, swept towards each other, nacelle arrangement facilitates top end performance. Still sort of ugly, like every new BMW generation, but growing on me...like every new BMW generation.

I figured it's Warp 9 in the TOS scale and not the updated scale. Still fast but not really crazy by TOS standards.

 

[dupersuper]

I guess I'm in the minority that I like both the TOS and SNW versions of the Enterprise. The SNW Enterprise is a total hotrod and has a lot of cool refinements, but there's also a classic grace to the TOS Enterprise that can never be taken away.

I like the SNW design fine, I just prefer to think it'll be redesigned a bit - being modular and all - by 2265.

Hey, no one's comparing the Star Trek series to the Star Trek comics here!

Not even Early Voyages?

More a matter of how gravity worked and use of centrifugal force, and thrust. It was reading about background radiation and appropriate shielding.

Not a fan of inertial dampeners and force fields?

 

[Mudd]

I'll tell you the one thing I immediately liked better about Pike's ship than Kirk's, and that's replacing the domes on the back of the nacelles with the open grids. It's nice to see that they won't necessarily be swapping them out for the Kirk era.

 

[Lakenheath 72]

About the Romulans using Klingon designs, I like to believe that the Romulans captured Klingon warships during battle and, seeing their value, they built copies of them.