Yes. I was kind of counting on it actually.
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This is alternate future. Let me ask you - does future from "All good things" double episode look like future in Star Trek Picard? No. Because it was alternate futurre.
In real canon future to that point Pike couldn't be Enterprise captain. He shoud be invalid in chairs. So it is altermate. In real canon future much things could happen before Tos nacells retrofit. There can be meanwhile some battle with Enterprise heavy demage so Utopia Planitia can decide to change nacells to TOS style.
As it stands there are THREE versions of the TOS Enterprise model, whose versions are mixed up depending on which stock footage any given episode sees. For better or worse, we can't reconcile THAT any more than we can reconcile this.
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Yeah, after watching the episode this is definitely an All Good Things situation, showing a future that's going to be changed in numerous ways. There's still hope, but my hope's definitely fading by this point. I think the people who want Star Trek to be reimagined are ultimately going to get their way.
Unless I go back in time and save the future.
Because when I watch TV shows I like to imagine that they're real and I can't do that if they change their mind on what things look like. Plus the Enterprise is one of the most iconic ships in science fiction history and they've retconned it away!
Last time I checked, TOS is still available on Paramount+ and still being shown on various local TV channels around the world. ViacomCBS is still licensing the TOS Enterprise for merchandising as well. Doesn't look like they're retconned it away at all.
For what it's worth, I'm 100% sure that after this cycle ends and Star Trek has its next revival, they'll be going back to the '60s and not use these redesigns as a base, whether it's an outright return to the TOS era or some kind of remake. SNW, in particular, seems all but terrified to create a lasting legacy, to a point where they just had an episode remaking a TOS episode, about how SNW can't ever be as good as TOS, in which it metaphorically described itself as leftovers gussied up with an egg and some shaved cheese.
They literally just revisited an episode and everything looked different.
It's like if, I dunno, someone made a RoboCop movie that returns to the events of the first movie except RoboCop looks like he did in the 2014 remake now. That's the real RoboCop, it says. You can't have the original because it's not 1987 anymore.
I don't want SNW to be retconned either though! I want things to be things and stay things, and then other people can make new things.
But also Prodigy with the original ;b
It's just a case of different productions made with different production teams. Maybe if Star Trek simply had one person supervising it with an insistence on everything being visually consistent, things would be different, but that really hasn't been the case with Trek. It's been really a series of different productions by different creators that share a common narrative, but are otherwise each a reflection of the real-world times they were made in.
Seems like a huge flaw they should get fixed in my opinion.
And yet, Prodigy and Lower Decks have used the TOS Design.
Nope. What Pike experienced was an alternate timeline 
I wouldn't have agreed, oh, three weeks ago, but then they killed Hemmer and with it their best chance at creating an original and enduring character. So, yeah.
I'm 100% sure that we'll never see the TOS aesthetic again other than as we occasionally do now - a passing homage or in-joke or inspiration. It would look rather pathetic after SNW, which is the new high water mark.
I can imagine seeing the TMP version of the Enterprise in some production. It's a more complete and sophisticated design than TOS. Even the Kelvin Enterprise draws more heavily on it than the original.
I can imagine seeing the TMP version of the Enterprise in some production. It's a more complete and sophisticated design than TOS. Even the Kelvin Enterprise draws more heavily on it than the original.
It's not a huge flaw, it's the nature of the entertainment business. And Star Trek is a nearly 60-year old entertainment franchise, not an actual historical documentary.
That would be sad as the TOS Enterprise still looks pretty good even today, IMHO.
It honestly doesn't.
And this comes from a guy who owns several models of it and has the cross section hanging above my bed.
I guess I'm in the minority that I like both the TOS and SNW versions of the Enterprise. The SNW Enterprise is a total hotrod and has a lot of cool refinements, but there's also a classic grace to the TOS Enterprise that can never be taken away.
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