Spoilers The Strange New Worlds Starship Thread™

[137th Gebirg]

Yeah, I was totally unsure of the actual number. I erred conservatively there - pulled it entirely out of my ass, if I'm honest.

I am curious, though, what the computational equivalency really is. In any event, proves my point all the more effectively.

 

[Rahul]

So, uh, .... they took away Picard's entire budget, kicked Patrick Stewart out on some San Francisco backyard to film him, and put allllll that sweet, sweet money into space shots for SNW?

I.... I... ain't complaining!

In all seriousness - this show (not just the vfx, but the props, the sets, the AR wall, everything) looks like they throw all their money at.

 

[Vale]

I am curious, though, what the computational equivalency really is. In any event, proves my point all the more effectively.

The Apollo Guidance Computer, first used in 1966, was the first ever computer based on silicon chips. It was roughly computationally equivalent to the original Apple II released in 1977, so quite powerful for its day. This means it was capable of approximately 20 to 30 KFLOPS in modern terms (~25,000 floating point operations per second). For comparison an iPhone 14's CPU is capable of something like 1 TFLOPS (~1 trillion floating point operations per second) – about 50 million times the performance.

 

[DaveyNY]

Yeah, I was totally unsure of the actual number. I erred conservatively there - pulled it entirely out of my ass, if I'm honest.

I am curious, though, what the computational equivalency really is. In any event, proves my point all the more effectively.

If I remember correctly it was 16bit silicon e integrated circuit with a separate wired hard drive.
Probably comparable to an early TRS-80.

Nin'jd

 

[Vale]

If I remember correctly it was 16bit silicone integrated circuit with a separate wired hard drive.
Probably comparable to an early TRS-80.

Nin'jd

Silicone is not used to make computer chips – silicone is a family of polymers based on silicon in the same way that organic polymers (everything from fats to proteins to plastic) are based on carbon.

The Apollo Guidance Computer did not have a "hard drive" – it used core rope memory to hold its software in ROM (initially 24KB, later 48KB) and had a tiny amount of magnetic core memory (2KB!) for read/write operations.

 

[GNDN18]

They don't need to.

How many times did the Enterprise sets change in the TOS movies? Or Bird of Prey interior?

Different production, different design.

The sets often changed throughout the run of TOS, sometimes in the same episode, occasionally within one scene.

 

[137th Gebirg]

Don't forget that one big wall greeble that was held up with a block of wood:

Then accidentally fell over in a later scene:

 

[Ronald Held]

Pike's Enterprise had ~200 crew, Kirk's had ~430. With miniaturization of the hardware, small Engineering equipment seems reasonable

 

[Nerys Myk]

So, uh, .... they took away Picard's entire budget, kicked Patrick Stewart out on some San Francisco backyard to film him, and put allllll that sweet, sweet money into space shots for SNW?

I.... I... ain't complaining!

In all seriousness - this show (not just the vfx, but the props, the sets, the AR wall, everything) looks like they throw all their money at.

Blame Canada

 

[Tuskin38]

So, uh, .... they took away Picard's entire budget, kicked Patrick Stewart out on some San Francisco backyard to film him, and put allllll that sweet, sweet money into space shots for SNW?

I.... I... ain't complaining!

In all seriousness - this show (not just the vfx, but the props, the sets, the AR wall, everything) looks like they throw all their money at.

I know you’re joking, but it’s more likely the budget was being saved for Season 3, considering you know.

 

[DaveyNY]

Silicone is not used to make computer chips – silicone is a family of polymers based on silicon in the same way that organic polymers (everything from fats to proteins to plastic) are based on carbon.

The Apollo Guidance Computer did not have a "hard drive" – it used core rope memory to hold its software in ROM (initially 24KB, later 48KB) and had a tiny amount of magnetic core memory (2KB!) for read/write operations.

I got spell corrected - should have been Silicon (I fixed it)

The Apollo Guidance Computer did not have a "hard drive"

It was a rudimentary "hard drive" though, just not as we know them today.
It even had a very small amount of read/write availability to it.

 

[Kaelef]

If I remember correctly it was 16bit silicone integrated circuit with a separate wired hard drive.
Probably comparable to an early TRS-80.

I find it hard to believe it was 16bit. Definitely no hard drive.

 

[Noname Given]

If I remember correctly it was 16bit silicon e integrated circuit with a separate wired hard drive.
Probably comparable to an early TRS-80.

Nin'jd

Nope - it wasn't anywhere near as powerful as a TRS-80 (and no, not kidding).

 

[DaveyNY]

I find it hard to believe it was 16bit. Definitely no hard drive.

As I said above your post, it is considered to be a very rudimentary hard drive, but not in the same way we know them today.
The NASA group back then, defined the Apollo Guidance Computer (AGC) as a 16 bit device.

 

[DaveyNY]

Nope - it wasn't anywhere near as powerful as a TRS-80 (and no, not kidding).

I didn't say it was as powerful, I said that it was comparable.
And that would be toward the earliest TR computers from the early 70's, not the later generations.

 

[mdtauk]

The sets often changed throughout the run of TOS, sometimes in the same episode, occasionally within one scene.

The fact that a single corridor set, stands in for every corridor on a starship - means that the variations caused by set alterations could be attributed for by believing them to be different locations.

 

[Vale]

It was a rudimentary "hard drive" though, just not as we know them today.
It even had a very small amount of read/write availability to it.

I gave some details of its read/write capabilities. It's still not a hard drive, which is a specific class of magnetic storage. It's a type of hardwired ROM – literally wired in fact, it looks like a handwoven metallic carpet – with a tiny amount of electromechanical RAM.

 

[fireproof78]

So, uh, .... they took away Picard's entire budget, kicked Patrick Stewart out on some San Francisco backyard to film him, and put allllll that sweet, sweet money into space shots for SNW?

No.

 

[Kaelef]

As I said above your post, it is considered to be a very rudimentary hard drive, but not in the same way we know them today.
The NASA group back then, defined the Apollo Guidance Computer (AGC) as a 16 bit device.

I stand (or sit) corrected - it really did have 16bit registers! I never would've guessed given the year and that it was battery powered.

 

[NCC-73515]

Pike's Enterprise had ~200 crew, Kirk's had ~430. With miniaturization of the hardware, small Engineering equipment seems reasonable

Just filling the empty space between turboshafts with rooms for people to use

The Apollo Guidance Computer did not have a "hard drive" – it used core rope memory to hold its software in ROM (initially 24KB, later 48KB) and had a tiny amount of magnetic core memory (2KB!) for read/write operations.

Hand-woven tapestry memory

In all seriousness - this show (not just the vfx, but the props, the sets, the AR wall, everything) looks like they throw all their money at.

Let's hope some of it goes into good story writing as well