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Sorry, I meant less advanced. Looks like it came from the 50s not the 60s
That's because it is, the 2250s, vs the 2260s model from TOS.
That's a great visual aid. Is there a version that includes the 2266-era USS Enterprise?
Bumping up the scales of various ships would also go a long way into helping shots like these make a little more sense...
I found this, which seems to be the original. I didn't make it, so credit to whomever.
I quite like this scale. Bumping up the Constitution and Excelsior makes their interiors fit while also making the size jumps from Constitution - Excelsior - Ambassador smaller. It also still keep a noticeable progression because the Ambassador is so much chunkier at the same length.
I found this, which seems to be the original. I didn't make it, so credit to whomever.
Seconded.
I always liked the idea of the phaser 1, it's too bad that it was decided in TNG to abandon them. I wonder if the original idea was to have our heroes armed with the scifi equivalent of a Derringer, but since no one watches Westerns anymore the concept was essentially forgotten (even though the prop designers keep including them in their phaser 2 designs).
Or it was too small to show up on screen making tracking phaser shots difficult for CGI.
Might be easier now and more visible.
Might be easier now and more visible.
I still think the Excelsior should be longer than the Ambassador. And they definitely shouldn't be exactly the same length, no reason for them to match in universe. Excelsior should be around 600m.
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If you keep the original scaling between the Constitution and Excelsior, it comes out to about 663m
I may have a fat head on occasion, but I haven't had a shaved head since I was in my late twenties/early thirties.
Well, in TOS it was the weapon that they wore under their uniforms.
Now I'm curious: Did they stop using the phaser 1's at some point? Or were they in use through all three seasons? Dammit, now I have another statistic to chase after!
There was no tracking. In any of the Berman shows. (Maaaaaybe ENT?) If you were firing a phaser it was a locked off shot. And it wasn't CGI.
The funny thing is that they had the keychain phaser (whatever they called it) that didn't look very dissimilar to the phaser 1 that was used quite a bit in TOS. Then they decided that the TNG phaser "wasn't believable".
Ah, Memory Alpha:
(I certainly did not have a big TV in 1987 and I could see it fine.)
The thing is, in SNW we already have the phaser 1's because they're part of the phaser 2's design.
Same here.
I think when they went to the smaller dustbuster in Season 3 of TNG, they just decided the type 1 was superfluous and stopped using it (except for like a one more episode of TNG and one of Voyager).
It's simple really. The Enterprise always looked just like it does in SNW and in the TOS movies.
It's just that when they filmed the series back in the sixties they couldn't persuade Starfleet to lend them a Constitution class ship and had to make do with a little old New Jersey class ship with Enterprise painted on it. On the small screen you can't tell that it's only 288 meters instead of 442.
It's just that when they filmed the series back in the sixties they couldn't persuade Starfleet to lend them a Constitution class ship and had to make do with a little old New Jersey class ship with Enterprise painted on it. On the small screen you can't tell that it's only 288 meters instead of 442.
Thank you, that is wonderful!
I found this, which seems to be the original. I didn't make it, so credit to whomever.
Based on the graph, the easiest thing is that the TOS Connie is 442m long.
It's the Pilot version from 2245 to 2255, then gets refitted into the DSC/SNW version.
Refit to the TOS series version around 2260-2263.
Refit to Constitution II class in 2273.
All 442m long.
It's the Pilot version from 2245 to 2255, then gets refitted into the DSC/SNW version.
Refit to the TOS series version around 2260-2263.
Refit to Constitution II class in 2273.
All 442m long.
nonsense.
At this point, a larger scaled TOS Enterprise is pretty much a given if one wishes to get everything seen since then to harmonize.
Having never actually been stated in TOS exactly what her length and height were, it's not all that farfetched to accept.
Especially since what we saw as her internal spaces never really matched the original behind-the-scenes dimensions.
Having never actually been stated in TOS exactly what her length and height were, it's not all that farfetched to accept.
Especially since what we saw as her internal spaces never really matched the original behind-the-scenes dimensions.
Those are nice, where'd you get them?
EDIT: Speaking of, I saw on Memory Alpha there was a section in the Connie about a refit from the SNW to the TOS-Connie, but I don't see any source and it links to the Connie-II/movie refit.
Anyone know anything about this?
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