The fate of Jonas specifically is never addressed.
The Stargate Franchise - A First Timer's Watchthrough
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I guess that's fair. I mean I know that Ba'al gets more development, but I felt that their exploration was appropriate in the early part of show. I don't know. It just felt there was enough Goa'uld for the first part,
I do think Summit is a great example of expanding world development. I just think it came at the right time for the franchise.
Another thing is that the early seasons gave us several main Goauld villains whereas later in the series, they focused on only 1 main Goauld villain.
I do think the later seasons handled them not as well.
Shadow Play
We got an episode about Jonas and his relationship with his planet now that they consider him a traitor, and it's about a professor who is a Schizophrenic. I always like Dean Stockwell, so I was surprised to see him in this episode, but as for the story it kinda amounted to nothing. At least SG1 learned their lesson from getting involved in other planet's internal conflicts, even though the Kelwonans made a great point about why earth hasn't revealed their Stargate to the masses.
We got an episode about Jonas and his relationship with his planet now that they consider him a traitor, and it's about a professor who is a Schizophrenic. I always like Dean Stockwell, so I was surprised to see him in this episode, but as for the story it kinda amounted to nothing. At least SG1 learned their lesson from getting involved in other planet's internal conflicts, even though the Kelwonans made a great point about why earth hasn't revealed their Stargate to the masses.
Learning lessons isn't really O'Neill's thing.
The Other Guys
The two nerds have to save the main cast episode, kind of like Babylon 5's "A View from the Gallary". It had Star Trek references, John Billingsley, and it was a ton of fun.
Allegience
Now that's how you make a new alliance. I was reading that this was the first episode where we got Selmak and Bra'tac together, and I realized I don't think we've had an episode where the Tok'ra and Jaffa cross paths. Things have led to this moment and it was nice seeing the Ashrak again, from very early in season 2. I especially liked how there was a bit of an update about where the Jaffa rebels and Tok'ra were in this series. I was a little confused as to how big the Tok'ra was, considering it seemed like Revanna was their main headquarters and that was bombed. This episode helped clear that up, in terms of the various missions they go on and where they are all meeting now, which looks like the Tauri Alpha Site. The same could be said about the Jaffa rebels after The Warrior. I also liked the conversation between Jack and Jacob. If this season does feel like a relaunch of the series on a new network, this conversation helped bring everyone up to speed in terms of the various storylines of the Tok'ra, Jaffa, and SGC. Great episode.
The two nerds have to save the main cast episode, kind of like Babylon 5's "A View from the Gallary". It had Star Trek references, John Billingsley, and it was a ton of fun.
Allegience
Now that's how you make a new alliance. I was reading that this was the first episode where we got Selmak and Bra'tac together, and I realized I don't think we've had an episode where the Tok'ra and Jaffa cross paths. Things have led to this moment and it was nice seeing the Ashrak again, from very early in season 2. I especially liked how there was a bit of an update about where the Jaffa rebels and Tok'ra were in this series. I was a little confused as to how big the Tok'ra was, considering it seemed like Revanna was their main headquarters and that was bombed. This episode helped clear that up, in terms of the various missions they go on and where they are all meeting now, which looks like the Tauri Alpha Site. The same could be said about the Jaffa rebels after The Warrior. I also liked the conversation between Jack and Jacob. If this season does feel like a relaunch of the series on a new network, this conversation helped bring everyone up to speed in terms of the various storylines of the Tok'ra, Jaffa, and SGC. Great episode.
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Cure
This episode was sensational. The SG1 team meet a new race of people called the Pengarans who want knowledge and addressed to Goa'uld homeworlds in exchange for a drug called Tritonan. Unfortunately, this drug was made by a Gao'uld queen who is revealed to be the queen of the Tok'ra. What happens is just layers and layers being peeled back on Tok'ra history and how science provided very unfortunate results that did not have malicious intent. This episode was about science, morality, and ignorance but what I really loved about it was this episode didn't villify the Pengarans. Instead the Tok'ra queen forgave them and gave them the antidote that she had previously withheld in the hopes that they would stop the experiments. In a Season that has been amazingly strong so far, I think I liked this episode the best. Both sides learned so much and became much better people because of that knowledge. If this had been done today, we probably would have seen gun fights or just violence. This episode was about peaceful understanding and forgiveness and it actually shocked me.
This episode was sensational. The SG1 team meet a new race of people called the Pengarans who want knowledge and addressed to Goa'uld homeworlds in exchange for a drug called Tritonan. Unfortunately, this drug was made by a Gao'uld queen who is revealed to be the queen of the Tok'ra. What happens is just layers and layers being peeled back on Tok'ra history and how science provided very unfortunate results that did not have malicious intent. This episode was about science, morality, and ignorance but what I really loved about it was this episode didn't villify the Pengarans. Instead the Tok'ra queen forgave them and gave them the antidote that she had previously withheld in the hopes that they would stop the experiments. In a Season that has been amazingly strong so far, I think I liked this episode the best. Both sides learned so much and became much better people because of that knowledge. If this had been done today, we probably would have seen gun fights or just violence. This episode was about peaceful understanding and forgiveness and it actually shocked me.
And sheds much light on the Tok'ra's plight.
A great episode and very well done.
A great episode and very well done.
The first time I saw this episode, I could barely keep awake. So on subsequent rewatches, it somehow has a similar effect on me.
Yeah, it is a great episode with so many layers. And let's just say, that we will get a follow up on the drug tritonin again later in the series.
I know you were asking before about the Tok'ra and how they seem like jerks, taking advantage of SG1 but not really reciprocating. This episode helps us understand the Tok'ra better and maybe why they act that way. But also, it shows us how benevolent the Tok'ra queen is. So I think it shows us that at the origin, the Tok'ra were not bad guys at all. They were quite different than the Goauld. But perhaps over centuries and millennia even, of fighting the Goauld and struggling to survive, the To'kra of "present day" have changed from what their queen first wanted.
Yeah, I love this episode. It is great to see Jaffa, Tok'ra and Humans trying to work together and overcome the tensions between them.
I especially love the speech by Bratac at the end to inspire and unify the three groups, paraphrasing from memory, "This blade has spilled blood of the Jaffa (camera pans to show the Jaffa), the Tok'ra (camera pans to show the Tok'a) and the Tauri (camera pans to show the SG teams). It has made us brothers. It has done what we could not. It has brought us together against a common enemy. Let ensure it never spills out blood again!. (throws dagger into the ground)."
I've always loved Bra'tac. I had the pleasure of meeting Tony Amendola years ago at DragonCon. Great guy, super funny and personable.
It includes one of my favourite dialogue exchanges in the series.
"If we were at home you'd be at a Star Trek convention dressed like a Klingon."
"Vulcan! And how can anyone call themselves a scientist without worshipping at the Altar of Roddenberry?"
"'Oh, Captain, how do we solve this one?' 'I don't know. Something to do with the tachyon emitters, perhaps?'"
@tomalak301 I think you have arrived at the mid season two parter Prometheus & Unnatural Selection. I definitely look forward to your review as these two episodes introduce two significant new changes to the series.
I think it does a great job fleshing out the Tok'ra. I also think it illustrates why they are less reciprocal.
Excellent speech in an excellent episode.
Also, O'Neill's comment "Carter, can you make the invisible guy visible? That's all I need!"
I loved that speech, and the fact that it came from my favorite character on the show made it better. Like I said, that's how you form an alliance.
He's in the recent Star Wars video game, Fallen Order, and I'm entirely sure that the casting process was the writers going, "For the lost Jedi Master, we want a wise, grandpa-badass in the tradition of Obi-Wan in ANH. Like Master Bra'tac, from Stargate" "Well, can't we just hire Master Bra'tac from Stargate?" "I don't see why not."
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