Spoilers The Star Beast grade and discussion thread

Discussion in 'Doctor Who' started by The Nth Doctor, Nov 20, 2023.

?

How do you rate The Star Beast?

  1. Brilliant!

    29.0%
  2. A

    15.1%
  3. A-

    11.8%
  4. B+

    17.2%
  5. B

    11.8%
  6. B-

    2.2%
  7. C+

    2.2%
  8. C

    5.4%
  9. C-

    1.1%
  10. D+

    2.2%
  11. D

    1.1%
  12. D-

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  13. Rubbish

    1.1%
  1. VDCNI

    VDCNI Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Joined:
    May 26, 2009
    Location:
    London UK
    Highest drama debut of the year, beat I'm A Celeb, likely will be second only to Strictly for the week and may overtake it in the consolidated ratings and much higher than the overnights of the last load of Whittaker stories.

    Yeah what a disaster.
     
    SolarisOne, Sci, cultcross and 4 others like this.
  2. The Wormhole

    The Wormhole Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2001
    Location:
    The Wormhole
    Random aside, but they definitely dodged a bullet back in 2009 when they decided not to do that planned episode about the Doctor teaming up with Rowling for an adventure. That would have aged like sour milk given what we now know about her.

    We have Tennant to thank for that, who objected to it when RTD first discussed the idea feeling it would have been "tacky."
     
  3. Steve Roby

    Steve Roby Rear Admiral Premium Member

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2002
    Location:
    Ottawa, ON Canada
    Whereas I love the fact that eventually people will stop shitting all over the Chibnall era, which was mostly a refreshing change of pace from Moffat's journeys up his own backside in search of convoluted and ultimately meaningless arcs. I've already had the fun of seeing some of the people who somehow convinced themselves that RTD would give them a Doctor Who less "woke" than Chibnall's lose their little minds.
     
  4. Jax

    Jax Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2003
    Location:
    The Universe.
    I've heard the boss will be a villain for Ncuti Gatwa's Doctor.

    This is the TV landscape these days...

    Live ratings are so much lower than they were back in the RTD/DT era so 5 million overnight (a figure that will increase in the finals) is a solid number. A lot of people will watch on iPlayer like I did so that figure will add millions by the time episode 2 airs.
     
  5. The Wormhole

    The Wormhole Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2001
    Location:
    The Wormhole
    It's also worth noting that in Britain, anything with five million viewers is considered a smash hit. So while it may be a far cry from the twelve million or whatever it was Tennant got the first time around, it's nothing to worry about either.
     
  6. JoeZhang

    JoeZhang Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2008
    Yeah outside a few national events you will never see Twelve million again.
     
  7. Romulan_spy

    Romulan_spy Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2000
    Location:
    Terre Haute, IN. USA
    WhoCulture likes the episode.

     
  8. Jax

    Jax Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2003
    Location:
    The Universe.
    I presume a bigger focus for the franchise will be the worldwide audience through Disney+ rathe than the BBC domestic ratings.
     
  9. Phily B

    Phily B Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2001
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    People don't realise how many people watch on iPlayer these days.
     
  10. bdub76

    bdub76 Captain Captain

    Joined:
    May 11, 2022
    Reminded me of a Sarah Jane Adventures. I liked most of it.
     
    Turtletrekker likes this.
  11. The Doctor

    The Doctor Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2004
    Location:
    The Doctor's TARDIS
    I want to like the new TARDIS interior. It's vast in a way that we haven't seen since Eleven's first control room but its just too sterile. I know it harkens back to the first room with all of it's 60's scifi cleanliness but I have really grown attached to the oddball style of 9/10/11 with real world objects embedded in the console. I too hope that over time it gains some character to offset the sterility.

    I would have preferred that Donna spill the coffee on the console to no ill effect and the Doctor hit a lone button meant to home in on Wilf, causing the calamity. Just that bit of subverting expectations would have gone a long way and it _is_ a new console. Surely he hasn't figured out the control mapping just yet.
     
  12. Samurai8472

    Samurai8472 Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2007
    According to the In-Vision commentary for Star Beast The Meep's 'Boss' will debut in Ncuti Gatwa's era
     
    Commander Troi likes this.
  13. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2000
    Location:
    In the lap of squalor I assure you.
    The Toymaker is/lives in a self contained mini universe, outside n-space, where he/it controls reality.

    The coffee was a plot gimmick to screw with the navigation, so that they flew outside of known time/space.

    The Meep is in this universe.

    It's unlikely the two things are connected because they are in different universes... Or the Tardis needed Donna to spill her Coffee onto the Console, to chase down the Meep's master.
     
  14. matthunter

    matthunter Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2004
    Location:
    Great Britain
    After last night, I'm leaning towards doing so as well - it seems my volume issues were with the live broadcast over Sky+ HD. The sound is perfect at my usual volume on iPlayer...
     
    cultcross and Captaindemotion like this.
  15. Captaindemotion

    Captaindemotion Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    May 26, 2001
    Location:
    Ireland
    I also watched on sky and found the sound to be terrible. Planning to rewatch on iplayer too.
     
  16. Allyn Gibson

    Allyn Gibson Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2000
    Location:
    South Pennsyltucky
    That's not a cheap set, and it's the kind of set whose cost you amortize across an entire series. It's going to get used, and I would not be surprised if Gatwa has a bottle episode almost entirely on that set
     
  17. VDCNI

    VDCNI Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Joined:
    May 26, 2009
    Location:
    London UK
    When you spend a few minutes pausing the story to let your main character run around the set to show how big it is, it's very clear its going to be used a lot more.
     
  18. JoeZhang

    JoeZhang Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2008
    Yes they talk about the other directors using it as well - also that the whole set is real and the lights are all real too - that's not for a one off!
     
  19. Fantasy Lover

    Fantasy Lover Captain Premium Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2023
    Thanks to ranting in the Brit o’ clock thread I wasn’t surprised by the twist, but also because Disney pulled it off so many times it’s hardly a surprise anymore
     
  20. CorporalCaptain

    CorporalCaptain Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2011
    Location:
    astral plane
    So, the good Meep, was it entirely a practical puppet? The evil Meep looked like it was done with CGI.