Spoilers The Ships of Lower Decks

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Lower Decks' started by Tuskin38, Apr 6, 2021.

  1. KamenRiderBlade

    KamenRiderBlade Commodore Commodore

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    So that weird Roomba shape thing is a Titan probe?

    Anyways, I was thinking about all the vessel upgrades that a Star Trek Captain gets in show/movie.

    Captain Kirk went from Consitution Class -> Refit Constitution Class

    Captain Picard went from Galaxy Class -> Sovereign Class -> Retirement and hiring out Rios ship "La Sirena" as a private citizen & retired Admiral.

    Captain Sisko went from stuck on DS9 -> DS9 + Defiant Class

    Captain Janeway got home and was promoted to a Admiral / Desk Job, eventually immortalized into a hologram.

    If Captain Freeman and her crew ever gets upgraded to another ship that isn't a California Class / USS Cerritos

    Hopefully, she gets a Parliament Class ship.

    =D

    Maybe that will be the eventual (In Show) upgrade path for Captain Freeman.

    You already have the 3D CG asset and it's a Lower Decks original StarShip design.

    Apparently, the interiors are largely the same =D
     
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  2. Timo

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    A million Likes.

    For all we know, the thing has no "space drive" to speak of, and the fancy ring around her is purely for atmospheric maneuvering. Perhaps not at the thin-atmosphere Titan, but in the depths of Saturn herself, this being a batyscaphe that moves up and down by virtue of a magnetic coil or whatever...

    Timo Saloniemi
     
  3. 137th Gebirg

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    Damn! They really used a Loknar! They dug deep for these things.
     
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  4. Dukhat

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    And kudos to them for their research in finding that there was a Loknar with the name Titan. I hope they use more FASA designs in the future.

    As for the Jeffries Enterprise concept, I have no reason not to believe that the intent was for it to be an early pre- or post-Federation Starfleet vessel. And even if it’s not, it’s cool that they used it at all.
     
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  5. TIM Thomason

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    The Jefferies Prototype 2 there (which I will refer to as Titan Class) probably has a nacelle or two hidden in the white section (with the bottom part being the warp core and engineering directly fed into the nacelle), and the crew live and work in the metal saucer that rests on top. Not sure about the metal saucer surrounding everything, but it could be part of a deflector shielding system.
     
  6. Timo

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    Could be the saucers of starships are actually functional somehow, and this was an early experiment in which a random spacecraft was given a proto-saucer for the very first time. Sure, one can squeeze habitable decks in there, too, but the functionality might be separate: a gravity-generating donut coil, a vital shielding system, an antenna for FTL radio...

    I'd definitely keep the design pre-Starfleet, pre-UFP. We see the symbols "S" and "2" there; I'd love for this to be the second Saturn probe, following Christopher's vessel into the depths of the gas giant!

    Timo Saloniemi
     
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  7. TIM Thomason

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    I like to think the saucer detaches and turns into a landing craft (and potential escape pod in an emergency).
     
  8. matthunter

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    I can't see Freeman moving past her micromanager tendencies to the point she gets a decent command. She's more likely to end up as one of those obstructive "tries to tell Kirk his job" Commodores commanding a backwater outpost types, if she ever makes it past Captain.
     
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  9. Timo

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    This particular spacecraft is so horribly tiny that I'd hate to see it fall to even smaller pieces. Indeed, it seems to be so defined by the absence of familiar elements that it would be nice to think that it lacks capabilities in appropriate numbers, too. By the numbers: no obious warp drive, no obvious shuttlebay, no obvious impulse drive, no obvious weapons. The vertical structure, with the engines at the bottom, makes one wonder about the direction of flight, too...

    Timo Saloniemi
     
  10. JRoss

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    Agree on this one. Just the fact that she's indulged her daughter like this, in secret, and for so long, really speaks to how poor of a captain she really is.
     
  11. Markonian

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    Whoa!
    Somebody's gonna update Memory Alpha like mad.
     
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  12. Alpha C

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    Strictly canonically speaking the Jefferies concept could be pretty much anything of course, and the depiction in the episode (or the Jefferies artwork shown here) does not establish a clear scale. But if we put any faith in Jefferies original work, the cutaway he also produced is informative:

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    So there would be four decks, no warp drive (in fact, it doesn't show any propulsion system at all, though perhaps it is supposed to be the section labelled "power"). Based on the average height of the human figures I arrive at a length of ~42 meters, so it's definitely tiny. Agreed with Timo that pre-Federation, pre-warp sounds about right.
     
  13. Michael

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    ^ @Alpha C, that image link you are trying to include doesn't work. The best way to include images in your posts is to upload them to a site like imgur.com and then embed them here.
     
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    Thanks for the tip. Saw it appear so I thought it was fine. Here it is:

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  15. KamenRiderBlade

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    I think it reflects on how poor of a mother she really is.

    The fact that she raised her daughter to this point and the way she behaves.

    Children, even Adult Children are a reflection of their parents and their parenting skills / experience.

    How much of a % of a reflection that is, will vary based on what happened while they were growing up.
     
  16. KamenRiderBlade

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    That design reminds me of a Bathyscaphe like the Bathyscaphe Trieste that was used to go down to the Mariana's trench for the very first time.
     
  17. F. King Daniel

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    My nerdy senses say the old Yorktown/Enterprise concept is the Titan version of the Ringship Enterprise XCV-330 , so maybe about the same era. Or at the very latest, "The Cage" era. Or just like, unauthorised Forbidden Planet crossover.
     
  18. F. King Daniel

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    I should also point out that we're taking all this very seriously, when in Peter David's New Frontier comics he put a model of the short-lived Babylon 5 spin off Crusade's Excalibur in the lineage of his USS Excalibur. And Lower Decks takes itself even less seriously than New Frontier ever did!
     
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  19. Timo

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    The somber Picard proudly puts works of fiction on a pedestal in his ready room, too...

    In for a cent, in for a kilogram: Jeffries' cutaway artwork could be taken wholesale, so that the spacecraft would lack a "bridge" and would have a "control room" instead, say. A reflection of the craft's special role? Or of her historical context, preceding the use of classic starship terminology?

    Timo Saloniemi
     
  20. Tuskin38

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