Yeah, I thought those 2 gray things might be doors, but good to have confirmation.
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Yeah, I thought those 2 gray things might be doors, but good to have confirmation.
Luna-Classss <3
https://twitter.com/gaghyogi49/status/1314229543218143232
https://twitter.com/gaghyogi49/status/1314229543218143232
As cool as the Titan looks, I'm still glad they made the Cerritos what it is. And I love that they added that little scene at the end of the finale with Captain Freeman gushing over the simple look of the Cerritos and stopping the engineers from making it look cooler. Nice, self-aware touch.
For the record, I absolutely hate the fact that they used Sean Tourangeau's design for the USS Titan from the Treklit, and find myself cursing myself and the stars that I didn't submit in that fan design contest as I considered doing at the time! My one consolation after seeing the contest winner was that the design was from the lit so of course TPTB would never respect it enough to put it in the canon. ...I should have foreseen this when those Star Trek Online-looking ships made it to PIC. A pox! A coronal pox on all our G-type stars!
For all its pathological insistence on making every starship a California, LDS does a good job at perpetuating the TNG design language. The Luna is a nice stablemate to the Akira, sufficiently similar and different at the same time, and an obvious step towards the 25th century aesthetic that PIC has adopted, for equally obvious reasons. The round saucer of the California in turn works fine in tying the design all the way back to the Ambassador if need be (and that recent registry sort of calls for that).
It might be that LDS still needs a bit of a jarring outlier, too. After all, that's been the Trek staple since the first live spinoff. Where are all the clearly anachronistic designs hiding?
Timo Saloniemi
It might be that LDS still needs a bit of a jarring outlier, too. After all, that's been the Trek staple since the first live spinoff. Where are all the clearly anachronistic designs hiding?
Timo Saloniemi
Having a decade or so ago make a 3d model of the Luna Class Titan, and working with Sean for Input.
Was a very Nerd moment seeing it, Congrats to Sean!
Was a very Nerd moment seeing it, Congrats to Sean!
If you mean the Inquiry-Class, that was designed by John Eaves before the current Star Trek Online even existed.
I mean, it was (presumably)* designed by him for a version of Star Trek Online back in 2006, not the Star Trek Online we have right now, but a previous attempt to create one that was never finished, worked on by a different developer.
https://imgur.com/a/WaaMqyE
*It's possible it's even older than that, we know he likes to rework and resubmit unused designs.
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I do love that ship design! 
Thanks for the ship design, @Titan Designer, wherever you are.
One of my favorite lines was the captain saying how she hates how everything is refit to look like the Sovereign class. I was kinda surprised that made it in.
Honestly, I like the Sovereign class myself, but I can understand the frustration some people may feel of everything looking the same during a particular era of design.
Quite a few contemporaries of the E-D overtly possessed Galaxy-class lines (the Nebula, Freedom, Niagara, and most of the other Wolf 359 ships). You also had the pointy "arrowhead" period starting with the Intrepid, which seemed to come out as a direct evolution of the Sovereign line, including the Nova, Prometheus, copycat Dauntless, and so on.
All very common and with precedence, but certainly understandable.
Quite a few contemporaries of the E-D overtly possessed Galaxy-class lines (the Nebula, Freedom, Niagara, and most of the other Wolf 359 ships). You also had the pointy "arrowhead" period starting with the Intrepid, which seemed to come out as a direct evolution of the Sovereign line, including the Nova, Prometheus, copycat Dauntless, and so on.
All very common and with precedence, but certainly understandable.
So, with the Solvang, does it mean there still producing California class ships? Even had the "pull Plastic" on the hand rests!
Didn't a previous episode pretty much say the Cerritos was an old ship that needed tender maintence daily just to work??
Didn't a previous episode pretty much say the Cerritos was an old ship that needed tender maintence daily just to work??
Why?
And the Solvang is NCC-12101, predating even its "predecessor" the Rubidoux (12109) and way before the Cerritos (75567) or the Merced (87075). It's old hat that registry numbers mean nothing, but they've generally been within the same range. The Rubidoux and Solvang have registries pointing to decades ago, but the Solvang seems to be a brand new ship (or maybe just refit from non-use?). I'm guessing we have to accept some sort of registry reserve or reuse is at play.
Why can't it be both? The California class could be an old design that's still in production because it's effective. Or, it could be that the Solvang was an old ship that had just had a comprehensive upgrade so that it was effectively new but not actually new -- a Constitution refit-type situation.
I mean, we've had to accept that at least as far back as "The Doomsday Machine" establishing that the USS Constellation was the Enterprise's sister ship but had a registry of 1017, 700 digits lower than the Enterprise.
These sorts of details do point to nice bits of headcanon sometimes though. My headcanon for the Constellation's registry number is that the construction slot for registry number 1017 got held up for some reason, and that by the time the red tape got cleared up, enough time had passed that they decided to just build a 2260s Constitution for that registry number instead of, say, a 2230s Einstein. My headcanon for the USS Discovery's registry of NCC-1031 is that the Crossfield class is actually an old design from the 2220s or 2230s and that the Discovery and Glen were refit to equip them with the spore drive; that explains why an ensign assigned to the Discovery would still consider being re-assigned to a Constitution-class ship a step up.
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