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The scene with Jack (spoilers)

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the fact that you are 'so fed up' of the homosexuality and not the hetrosexuality is simply prejudice, no more and no less.

Don't talk to me about prejudice. I suffer from Asperger's Syndrome, a kind of autism, and I've had to endure a hell of a lot of crap off other people because they can't (and quite often refuse) to understand my condition. Yet people like me hardly ever get any support in the media.
 
Don't talk to me about prejudice. I suffer from Asperger's Syndrome, a kind of autism, and I've had to endure a hell of a lot of crap off other people because of my condition. Yet people like me hardly ever get any support in the media.
I think I'll talk to you about whatever I wish thanks, whether you chose to read it is up to you.

Um no offence but what the hell does your, admittedly regretable condition have with what we're discussing? We're disussing the portrayal of homosexuality in Doctor Who and you launch into this sudden "I have Asperger's Syndrome, people like me don't get support in the media" speech!? :confused:
 
Don't talk to me about prejudice. I suffer from Asperger's Syndrome, a kind of autism, and I've had to endure a hell of a lot of crap off other people because of my condition. Yet people like me hardly ever get any support in the media.
Um no offence but what the hell does your, admittedly regretable condition have with what we're discussing?
You can't be prejudice yourself if people hold a prejudice against people like you... Didn't you know that?
 
Wow this crap again! I saw nothing wrong with the scene, it was written to be 'adult implied ' mean that young kids would not pick up on it the actual interpetation. There was nothing direct about it, now if Jack had said 'lets go fuck', then yeah there maybe some issues more for sexuallity reasons vs gay/straight reasons. So what's different about this vs lets say, the old lesbian couple in Gridlock or when Jack was hitting on the guy Utopia.
 
Don't talk to me about prejudice. I suffer from Asperger's Syndrome, a kind of autism, and I've had to endure a hell of a lot of crap off other people because of my condition. Yet people like me hardly ever get any support in the media.
I think I'll talk to you about whatever I wish thanks, whether you chose to read it is up to you.

Um no offence but what the hell does your, admittedly regretable condition have with what we're discussing? We're disussing the portrayal of homosexuality in Doctor Who and you launch into this sudden "I have Asperger's Syndrome, people like me don't get support in the media" speech!? :confused:

Everything you say here bears out my argument.
 
How is that inappropriate? Two guys in a bar, starting to maybe give each other comfort. It doesn't even have to turn into something sexual. It's not like we saw them having wild sex with each other.

But that was what was strongly implied, I have no doubt that's what RTD intended.

iirc, in the Confidential RTD says that he wanted Jack to have some companionship and comfort after he has lost his family, friends and job. I think that seems a sweet, humanitarian thing to want for someone.

Did anybody else think that the scene near the end of Part 2 of The End of Time with Ten hooking Jack Harkness up with Alonzo in the bar was a bit inappropriate for what's supposed to be a family show?

I didn't think it was inappropriate because if I were watching this with the younger members of my family, I'd want them to be aware that there are straight and gay and bi people in the world and that in my family we find that wholly acceptable.
 
Don't talk to me about prejudice. I suffer from Asperger's Syndrome, a kind of autism, and I've had to endure a hell of a lot of crap off other people because of my condition. Yet people like me hardly ever get any support in the media.
I think I'll talk to you about whatever I wish thanks, whether you chose to read it is up to you.

Um no offence but what the hell does your, admittedly regretable condition have with what we're discussing? We're disussing the portrayal of homosexuality in Doctor Who and you launch into this sudden "I have Asperger's Syndrome, people like me don't get support in the media" speech!? :confused:

Everything you say here bears out my argument.
I'm sorry what exactly is your argument? :confused:
 
Don't talk to me about prejudice. I suffer from Asperger's Syndrome, a kind of autism, and I've had to endure a hell of a lot of crap off other people because of my condition. Yet people like me hardly ever get any support in the media.
I think I'll talk to you about whatever I wish thanks, whether you chose to read it is up to you.

Um no offence but what the hell does your, admittedly regretable condition have with what we're discussing? We're disussing the portrayal of homosexuality in Doctor Who and you launch into this sudden "I have Asperger's Syndrome, people like me don't get support in the media" speech!? :confused:

Everything you say here bears out my argument.

Right, because not understanding your line of thinking, whether it's directly related to your Asperger's or is just bigotry, is in fact being prejudice against you for a condition in which you have no choice.
 
I liked the scene. Jack has been through hell, he deserves some happiness and from the look of it Alonzo has been through a rough spot. The Doctor is helping two people who have helped him in the past.

As for kids seeing it. Either they are too young to even be aware of it and just see Jack getting a friend or something or they are aware of it and know that Jack likes men and women. Kids are fairly smart and the majority would be aware of gay people. I don't see how any harm could come out of the scene.
 
"Daddy, do those two boys like each other?"

"Yes, honey, some boys like girls and some boys like boys."

"Well, I know that!"
 
Dang. Two trolls in one thread. How fun.

The scene was not inappropriate, and for a scene that lasted all of 30 seconds in an episode that lasted 72 minutes, I would hardly say it's worth mentioning. How in the world did 30 seconds outweigh 71 minutes 30 seconds of everything else?
 
I think it's funny that people are upset by this; it was quite subtle compared to some of Jack's previous appearances.
 
I was quite annoyed at this scene actually, here we are on an alien planet in god knows what time or location and we get the same music from Daleks in manhatten? Come on!
 
Maybe it's because I'm just so fed up with the constant slappings of homoeroticism RTD keeps throwing at us in his stories.

LOL!

"Homoeroticism?"

Nothing that RTD has put in DW is any more homoerotic than his straight characters have been heteroerotic.

You just don't like the idea of treating homosexuality as being as equally valid as heterosexuality.
 
I was quite annoyed at this scene actually, here we are on an alien planet in god knows what time or location and we get the same music from Daleks in manhatten? Come on!

Yeah, I found the music jarring as well, they should have had Gold compose something new, maybe a nice little song in the vein of "Song for Ten".
 
I thought it was a lovely scene. It was nice subtle reference to Children of Earth and The Doctor helping Jack through the pain. So what if it's two guys?
 
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