The Romulan Supernova: The final, canon word

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by F. King Daniel, Jan 24, 2020.

  1. Gonzo

    Gonzo Guest

    They are trying to keep it simple I think, adding the Remans is not really going to make a difference to the story they want to tell.
     
  2. Yistaan

    Yistaan Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2018
    Wait what? Remans? I know they were likely destroyed too, but I did a whole text search of page 24 of this thread and there wasn't a single instance of the word Reman ... A discussion from many pages back perhaps?
     
  3. Gonzo

    Gonzo Guest

    A certain someone has someone else on block methinks. :angel:
     
    Nerys Myk and SolarisOne like this.
  4. SolarisOne

    SolarisOne Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Joined:
    Jun 7, 2016
    Location:
    stuck between a rock and a kiss-ass place
    Blame @Longinus.
     
  5. Yistaan

    Yistaan Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2018
    Oh ok this post I see. I understand what happened now. Never mind, it brings me bad memories of the earlier pages of this thread..
     
  6. Longinus

    Longinus Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2008
    I didn't want to resurrect an old thread about the fate of Remans (it did exist) nor start a new thread for it, so I dropped the quote here as it kinda related to the destruction of Romulus like this thread.
     
  7. F. King Daniel

    F. King Daniel Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2008
    Location:
    King Daniel Beyond
    That's very disappointing. I liked the Remans a great deal. Cheesy as hell, but a delicious cheese.
     
  8. Yistaan

    Yistaan Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2018
    I wouldn't be surprised if the whole Reman/Shinzon business was a Zhat Vash operation designed to kill Data.
     
  9. Gonzo

    Gonzo Guest

    I think that is a bit beyond their reach but I have no doubt they took advantage of it.

    Same with the Romulan power vacuum when the star exploded.
     
  10. Christopher

    Christopher Writer Admiral

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2001
    I liked the idea of the Remans too, if for no other reason that it made the Romulan Star Empire an actual empire! I’m so tired of Trek’s so-called “empires” that consist of only one species. An empire, by definition, is a political entity in which one central state rules over multiple other states and draws upon their wealth, goods, and populace to serve the needs of the metropolis (the central state). So an interstellar empire shouldn’t be one race, it should be multiple races under one race’s rule. The only alien civilization we’ve seen in Trek that really looks like an empire is the Dominion, because its rulers man their ships with members of the more expendable subordinate races — much as historical empires such as the Roman and British Empires made extensive use of subject populations as cannon fodder in their armies. (The Son'a also had a couple of subject races, but their own population wasn't that large, apparently, so they didn't really come off as an empire.) One of the things I like about Nemesis is that it actually depicts the Romulans functioning as an empire, ruling over a subject people (the Remans) and using them as expendable frontline troops in their wars. It was so immensely refreshing after decades of seeing the Romulans portrayed as a single-species state (not to mention the Klingons, Cardassians, and pretty much all the other so-called “empires” in Trek). So it's a shame that's been abandoned.
     
  11. Enterprise is Great

    Enterprise is Great Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2004
    Location:
    The Island
  12. Enterprise is Great

    Enterprise is Great Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2004
    Location:
    The Island
    I looked up Murnau. He was a German movie director and he directed Nosferatu. The Remans kind of look like Nosferatu. I think Chabon was joking here. It’s not that they didn’t exist it but that they just aren’t important for Star Trek Picard.
     
  13. thribs

    thribs Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2017
    He was obviously joking but I think people were just curious if they are still around or if this supernova wiped them out.
     
  14. Enterprise is Great

    Enterprise is Great Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2004
    Location:
    The Island
    I thought people might’ve taken him seriously. Sometimes it’s hard to tell if people get the joke on the internet.
     
  15. NCC-73515

    NCC-73515 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2019
    Location:
    California
    And when Data pushed Bev out of the sailing ship, Worf also fell back into the water. How could he forgive that. It was like bathing... twice!

    Doug Jones is the new Orlok in a part-remake part-remaster of the original Nosferatu!
     
    Turtletrekker likes this.
  16. Roboturner913

    Roboturner913 Commander Red Shirt

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2011
    Krios was subjugate to the Klingons in a TNG episode. I believe there were several episodes of Enterprise that showed other races that had been conquered by the Klingons. And I could be wrong but I feel like there was at least one or two races depicted in DS9 that were subjects of the Cardassian Union, or at least they were in all but name.

    Not that I disagree with your general premise.
     
  17. Phily B

    Phily B Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2001
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    Interesting that the T'Kon Empire, seemingly the ones who could move stars, also saw their homeworld sun go supernova and their Empire subsequently collapsed.
     
  18. F. King Daniel

    F. King Daniel Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2008
    Location:
    King Daniel Beyond
    Probably one of those on-the-job, friday afternoon star moving accidents.

    *star goes nova, homeworld explodes*

    "Ah, fuck."
     
    Longinus and Gonzo like this.
  19. Timo

    Timo Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2003
    The exact nature of the people of Krios was never revealed; for all we know, this explicit "Klingon colony" never had harbored non-Klingon sapient life. But yes, ENT featured at least one sample of apparent conquered peoples: in "Judgment", unseen "aliens" are not immediately identified as Klingons but are later revealed to be from a "colony" (apparently theirs, that is, founded by the alien species which had its homeworld elsewhere) "annexed" by the Klingons. I don't know of any others...

    The Cardassian Union in turn seemed to enjoy great popularity in the neutral space around Bajor: everybody from Kressari to Xepolite appeared to support Cardassia and oppose the Federation. But all those were formally independent players. I'd like to think that at least Chin'toka was another Bajor-like "crown jewel" in the Union, conquered from indigenous folks, but there's no textual support for that.

    Timo Saloniemi
     
  20. fireproof78

    fireproof78 Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2014
    Location:
    Annoyed by inappropriate use of the word "Need"
    That's...disappointing.