The Romulan Supernova: The final, canon word

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by F. King Daniel, Jan 24, 2020.

  1. Christopher

    Christopher Writer Admiral

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    Huh? No, nothing of the sort was suggested. Very little was said about the supernova at all, and nothing about its cause.

    http://www.chakoteya.net/Extras/movie2009.html
     
  2. Ronald Held

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    In TNG and ENT, Eisn looks like a G dwarf star. I would believe it was artificially turned into a supernova, versus the Sundered picked a planet orbiting a red giant star.
     
  3. valkyrie013

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    Well.. Here's a decent idea.. Maybe a book.. The Tkon was also wiped out by a supernova, and if memory serves (ha ha ha) .. They were about to Move said star and replace it... Maybe have somebody go on an archeological hunt for the machine that the tkon built to move the stars? And be " just Late" to the romulan supernova??
     
  4. F. King Daniel

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    I loved the star moving concept. It reminded me of Larry Niven's Known Space universe and the Fleet of Worlds, and I'm sure it wasn;t coincidental since Michael Chabon is a fan and got the Kzinti namedropped for the first time in 40 years.

    I'm fully expecting Earth to be "missing" in Discovery's distant future third season, only to have been relocated somewhere "safer".
     
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  5. Gonzo

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    That was a big end of series reveal on Andromeda.
    The whole Vdraysh idea is straight out of Iain M Banks Feersum Endjinn.
     
  6. Tim Thomason

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    Something is up with Earth in the 31st century:
     
  7. Kzinti

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    the best thing they could do is ignore the temporal cold war bullshit
     
  8. Dukhat

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    They have.
     
  9. Yistaan

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    Considering Enterprise is a prequel to both the Kelvin Timeline and the Prime Timeline, the producers can always say the Temporal Cold War happened in the Kelvin Timeline so they can ignore it in the Prime one. Although that means the Enterprise NCC-1701-J would be a Kelvin timeline ship...
     
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  10. Dukhat

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    That assumes that the producers care about that. And they don't.
     
  11. Yistaan

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    Nice to know you're a Betazoid.

    In all seriousness, no one can with 100% certainty claim they can know what another person thinks or cares about unless they are that person. People were swearing up and down before Picard hit that the producers didn't care about irumodic syndrome either.
     
  12. Christopher

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    One: Enterprise was always meant to lead into the timeline of the other shows, not away from it. If nothing else, the series finale makes that obvious, as do the many other (much better) fourth-season episodes that show things starting to progress toward the future that we knew from TOS, TNG, etc.

    Two: Given point One, it therefore follows that Daniels's future was never the Prime timeline to begin with, since he was surprised by some of the changes that occurred to his history as a result of the TCW. It was the events of ENT that created the Prime timeline.

    However, that does not mean Daniels came from the Kelvin timeline, because of course there are more than two timelines.
     
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  13. Dukhat

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    One doesn’t have to have the ability to read minds to predict what the showrunners will do. The Temporal Cold War is like the Time Cops: if you really, really try to figure out the logic behind it, none of it makes any sense. And to try to use it to explain things that really don’t need an explanation (i.e. continuity changes/retcons/changed premises/etc. are just normal for a series that’s lasted 50 years, and not the result of time travel shenanigans) is folly.
     
  14. fireproof78

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    Changes will happen.

    People will complain about the changes.

    And the cycle continues.
     
  15. Yistaan

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    Keep in mind I never said the producers would assign the Cold War to the Kelvin timeline in the show itself, but possibly through a real world Q&A like Chabon's Picard Q&As on instagram.
     
  16. Christopher

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    But why would you expect it to be associated with Kelvin, out of all possible timelines? I mean, by its very nature, the TCW encompasses multiple timelines, as different factions attempt to revise history to suit their agendas. That's what a temporal war is, so the premise of a temporal war existing within a single timeline is a contradiction in terms.

    Not to mention that Kelvin came into existence by accident, not as the result of any TCW campaign.
     
  17. Tim Thomason

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    The Vorgons blew up the Romulan star, once they finally got their hands on the Tox Uthat. They had plenty of time to cover their tracks.