Unless its a tachyon blackhole.
The whole shit with red matter is so floaty it can be anything.
The Romulan Supernova: The final, canon word
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The whole shit with red matter is so floaty it can be anything.
Chabon has said the story about the supernova will be told some day. I’m not sure if he was talking about in Picard or somewhere else. The wording is rather vague.
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When the jellyfish redmatter exploded in the narada, the Enterprise couldn't escape
chakoteya.net said:
This suggests some FTL or at least subspace effects from a red matter created black hole.
Key word, "when." It was right there at the moment of the explosion. The blast wave and radiation from the supernova would've been much further away by the time Spock arrived, if they'd already had enough time to vaporize Romulus.
That's an issue whether the supernova was Romulus' sole sun, a part of a binary Romulan system, or even magical Hobus supernova, as I mentioned earlier in this thread. Making sense of what Spock was trying to do before the supernova is hard enough. We'll just forget about afterwards: Spock was always an exact words person anyway; he said he'll make the black hole, he'll do it, regardless of whether it makes any difference now.
canonically, do we even know if Romulus/Remus orbited one or two stars?
It's one per a screenshot in Star Trek Nemesis: https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Romulan_system .
However I have no problem ignoring this sole screenshot to have Spock's plan make sense and have the Romulan system have 2 stars. Maybe the 2nd sun is out of view of this graphic or something.
So I don't think its an accident that the Supernova hit Romulus and then the Synths destroy the fleet designed to save Romulans. There are lots of ways to have the Synths lose support which still saves Romulans. Like kill each other randomly. Or attack something other than Mars. Etc.
So (kind of spoiler) who's our big bad that hates Synths AND Romulans?
So (kind of spoiler) who's our big bad that hates Synths AND Romulans?
Worf. He hates Romulans. And I guess he held a grudge against Data since they feuded in Gambit when Data took command.
I think maybe the idea is that the Zhat Vash were so terrified of this coming cataclysm that they were willing to sacrifice the Romulan Empire to save the rest of the galaxy.
Other way around. The attack was before the Supernova.
Before it actually happened, but years after it was predicted. The Picard backstory is that they had years of advance notice, giving them time to mount an extended evacuation that was then left unfinished and abandoned after the Mars attack, so that there were still too many Romulans left in the blast zone when the supernova finally came 2 years later.
Exactly. "It will supernova" was first, then Synth's are discredited, then the actual supernova. So who really hates Romulans?
AFAIR from ENT , NEM,and other shows, a single Star seems more reasonable.
Well if they change it to binary to have Spock's plan make some kind of logical sense, it wouldn't be the most jarring thing Trek has changed. Most fans probably wouldn't even notice.
From that other Star franchise, we didn't even know Luke's hermit planet (and the Jedi homeworld) in Star Wars had 2 suns until the end of Episode 8.
Chabon on the fate of the Remans:
Q: What about the Remans? Did any survive and do they still look like Nosferatu?
A: It turns out that Remans were actually a mass hallucination, a form of pandemic hysteria--triggered, some theorize, by the first ever screening on Romulus of the classic 1922 #fmurnau film--that seized the population of the Romulan Star Empire in the years preceding the supernova, so powerfully that it eventually spread to individuals of other species. The Remans never actually existed! So embarrassing. We don't actually talk about it.
I feel this is a pretty sufficient answer.
Q: What about the Remans? Did any survive and do they still look like Nosferatu?
A: It turns out that Remans were actually a mass hallucination, a form of pandemic hysteria--triggered, some theorize, by the first ever screening on Romulus of the classic 1922 #fmurnau film--that seized the population of the Romulan Star Empire in the years preceding the supernova, so powerfully that it eventually spread to individuals of other species. The Remans never actually existed! So embarrassing. We don't actually talk about it.
I feel this is a pretty sufficient answer.
Star Charts and Stellar Cartography put the Romulus-Remus system in a binary. M primary, K secondary. The secondary may be far enough out from the primary to allow for the depiction in Nemesis. All of which may rule out GJ 3788 as speculated by Jed Whitten.
(And if it is supposed to be GJ 3788, maybe it will be easier to remember if we use "Wolf 487" in conversation?)
(And if it is supposed to be GJ 3788, maybe it will be easier to remember if we use "Wolf 487" in conversation?)
And we know that Trek producers have used these charts as reference. So the whole plot hole of Spock destroying one sun may have already been on the radar of the producers and their explanation is that Romulus would survive using the second sun.
It's still strange this isn't in the Picard Last Best Hope novel though.
What is beautiful? The possible retcon I suggested about the Romulan system having 2 suns? Thanks, I like it too
This is one retcon I am 100 percent behind!
and I hope it's confirmed.
