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They are trying to keep it simple I think, adding the Remans is not really going to make a difference to the story they want to tell.
This is one retcon I am 100 percent behind!
The Romulan Supernova: The final, canon word
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Wait what? Remans? I know they were likely destroyed too, but I did a whole text search of page 24 of this thread and there wasn't a single instance of the word Reman ... A discussion from many pages back perhaps?
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A certain someone has someone else on block methinks.
Oh ok this post I see. I understand what happened now. Never mind, it brings me bad memories of the earlier pages of this thread..
I didn't want to resurrect an old thread about the fate of Remans (it did exist) nor start a new thread for it, so I dropped the quote here as it kinda related to the destruction of Romulus like this thread.
That's very disappointing. I liked the Remans a great deal. Cheesy as hell, but a delicious cheese.
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I think that is a bit beyond their reach but I have no doubt they took advantage of it.
Same with the Romulan power vacuum when the star exploded.
I liked the idea of the Remans too, if for no other reason that it made the Romulan Star Empire an actual empire! I’m so tired of Trek’s so-called “empires” that consist of only one species. An empire, by definition, is a political entity in which one central state rules over multiple other states and draws upon their wealth, goods, and populace to serve the needs of the metropolis (the central state). So an interstellar empire shouldn’t be one race, it should be multiple races under one race’s rule. The only alien civilization we’ve seen in Trek that really looks like an empire is the Dominion, because its rulers man their ships with members of the more expendable subordinate races — much as historical empires such as the Roman and British Empires made extensive use of subject populations as cannon fodder in their armies. (The Son'a also had a couple of subject races, but their own population wasn't that large, apparently, so they didn't really come off as an empire.) One of the things I like about Nemesis is that it actually depicts the Romulans functioning as an empire, ruling over a subject people (the Remans) and using them as expendable frontline troops in their wars. It was so immensely refreshing after decades of seeing the Romulans portrayed as a single-species state (not to mention the Klingons, Cardassians, and pretty much all the other so-called “empires” in Trek). So it's a shame that's been abandoned.
Maybe next season?
I looked up Murnau. He was a German movie director and he directed Nosferatu. The Remans kind of look like Nosferatu. I think Chabon was joking here. It’s not that they didn’t exist it but that they just aren’t important for Star Trek Picard.
I thought people might’ve taken him seriously. Sometimes it’s hard to tell if people get the joke on the internet.
And when Data pushed Bev out of the sailing ship, Worf also fell back into the water. How could he forgive that. It was like bathing... twice!Worf. He hates Romulans. And I guess he held a grudge against Data since they feuded in Gambit when Data took command.
Doug Jones is the new Orlok in a part-remake part-remaster of the original Nosferatu!
Krios was subjugate to the Klingons in a TNG episode. I believe there were several episodes of Enterprise that showed other races that had been conquered by the Klingons. And I could be wrong but I feel like there was at least one or two races depicted in DS9 that were subjects of the Cardassian Union, or at least they were in all but name.
Not that I disagree with your general premise.
Probably one of those on-the-job, friday afternoon star moving accidents.
*star goes nova, homeworld explodes*
"Ah, fuck."
The exact nature of the people of Krios was never revealed; for all we know, this explicit "Klingon colony" never had harbored non-Klingon sapient life. But yes, ENT featured at least one sample of apparent conquered peoples: in "Judgment", unseen "aliens" are not immediately identified as Klingons but are later revealed to be from a "colony" (apparently theirs, that is, founded by the alien species which had its homeworld elsewhere) "annexed" by the Klingons. I don't know of any others...
The Cardassian Union in turn seemed to enjoy great popularity in the neutral space around Bajor: everybody from Kressari to Xepolite appeared to support Cardassia and oppose the Federation. But all those were formally independent players. I'd like to think that at least Chin'toka was another Bajor-like "crown jewel" in the Union, conquered from indigenous folks, but there's no textual support for that.
Timo Saloniemi
That's...disappointing.
