The "Real" Star of Enterprise

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Enterprise' started by Niallmhor4942, May 10, 2022.

  1. Niallmhor4942

    Niallmhor4942 Cadet Newbie

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    After reading some of the posts been a newbie as you like to put it , the real star of the show was NX-01 herself , she was something new a up and coming star of StarFleet making those first steps with the warp 5 engine to go into the unknown area of space , and with a good story line got me "hooked" all over again .
    But the 3 third series was like watching paint dry , surely they could have come up with story line that didn't take up the whole of the season . They had a chance to explore different stories instead of waiting till the the final season, then try and get it all in . I loved Enterprise and only wished that we didn't get the chance to see her in her refit configuration . Now that would have been something.
     
  2. Summer Solstice

    Summer Solstice Commander Red Shirt

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    Reading the title of this thread, I thought you were going to say Porthos!

    The ship was amazing. The lack of space on board in contrast to the 23rd and 24th Century spaceships was one of the things that made it seem like the Enterprise was from the near-ish future not the distant future.
     
  3. F. King Daniel

    F. King Daniel Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    I think the NX-01.5 refit is ugly as hell, and ruins a nice design for the sake of pandering to fans.
     
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  4. Ray Hardgrit

    Ray Hardgrit Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    I think it was mostly pandering to Doug Drexler.

    I've got my issues with the NX-01, but I don't want to be harsh to the ship in its own thread so I'll say that it's clear the designers put a lot of thought into it and I don't remember ever feeling that a scene got the scale wrong or anything like that.
     
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  5. somebuddyX

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    The NX-01 is one of my top five ships but only as the ISS NX-01 or Lorian's variant with the fucked up deflector dish. I never realised how big it was as I was watching it, as it's saucer is about as big as the NCC-1701's, so with the secondary hull added it's almost as big as the NCC-1701 altogether, and I kinda don't like it. I always liked the ship being small and probably would have made it even smaller, like a tight cramped submarine. When I was watching I figured the NX-01 all up was about the size of the saucer, which probably makes no sense but what I thought at the time.
    There's plenty of fan-art of the refit.
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  6. Iamnotspock

    Iamnotspock Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    I thought I was the only one! It looks like a contrived mash-up to me, like a lot of Ryan Church's designs for Star Wars when he tried to bridge the trilogies by doing the SF equivalent of putting bi-plane wings on a Spitfire, when that gradual evolution of design doesn't really happen in real life.
     
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  7. Ray Hardgrit

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    The NX-01 refit feels like they were rushing to get to TOS already, instead taking advantage of it being 100 years earlier.
     
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  8. Niallmhor4942

    Niallmhor4942 Cadet Newbie

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    Thank you for your honesty gentlemen, I do appreciate it. To each their own as the saying goes but thank you all the same.
     
  9. Niallmhor4942

    Niallmhor4942 Cadet Newbie

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    Have you seen USS Enterprise NCC-1701-C , now that is one ugly ship it looks like someone has been going mad with a air pump!
     
  10. FederationHistorian

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    I get what they were trying to convey with the uncovered nacelles. Even though it made the ship more advanced that it should be on tv, it was also saying that the world that the NX-01 inhabits is a fresh, bright, optimistic, new world. It does make sense.

    But the NX-refit occurring during the mid-2150s happens way too soon. It should have slowly progressed over decades, as there was plenty of time between ENT S4 and The Cage for refits to happend.

    2160s: nacelle coverings, Columbia NX-02 style deflector dish covering, bridge pillar, UFP decals on saucer section, seat belt for the captains chair, top warp 6.9.

    2170s: drive section added, warp regulator still attached to fins, top warp 7.

    2180s: warp regulator attached to drive section, UFP decals on saucer section removed, top warp 7.2-7.9.

    2190s-2200s: LCARS 1.0 systems in use, replacing the S/COMMS system in use since the 2140s-50s, bridge pillar removed.

    2210s: NX class retired as warp 8 barrier broken.

    The NX class is still smaller than the Constitution class. and the Daedalus class is smaller than the NX class.

    If the NX class was placed side by side with an Excelsior class, Reliant class, Galaxy class, and Defiant class, it would be understood just how small the NX class is.
     
  11. Ray Hardgrit

    Ray Hardgrit Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    That depends if we can ever agree on what size the other ships actually are!

    At least the NX's dimensions are pretty unambiguous... I think.
     
  12. somebuddyX

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    Next to the NCC-1701 and NCC-1701-A it's saucers are almost equal. Add in a secondary hull and there's not much difference.
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  13. Godofbiscuits

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    You mean the D, right? There's nothing about it that's in proportion. There's nothing that has radial symmetry. There's nothing that has balance. There's not even a visual sense that the center of mass exists internal to the shape of the ship. It's just plain ugly to look at. There's no angle where it looks good. It always looks like it's about to pounce on something that isn't even there, or it's going to tip over.
     
  14. Godofbiscuits

    Godofbiscuits Cadet Newbie

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    except that the D"s saucer is what, like 12.5 times wider than it is, deep? ;). Ok, maybe 10.5x
     
  15. Ray Hardgrit

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    I was looking at the windows on the side thinking 'there something not quite right there', so I resized them to show what the ships look like in an alternate universe where all their decks are the same height. The NX-01 has really shrunk!
     
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  16. dupersuper

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    We all know it was Porthos.
     
  17. McCoy's Disco Collar

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    That makes a whole lot more sense, thanks!
     
  18. STEPhon IT

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    It held its own to the Borg. A highly advanced alien race from the future. Such an event should've been comparable to "Bambi meets Godzilla" but oh well.