The Post-Burn Galaxy thread or "Post-Apocalypse or Slightly Used?"
No, not really. You said this before and it wasn't true then either.
Feel free to name one story beat that couldn't have worked just as well in the post Picard era.
The whole returning to the campus after a hundred years thing.
Not to mention the Federation being reduced to bare bones and scrambling for survival.
Having to woo a former Federation member world back into the fold.
Had no story beats actually connected to it.
Could have just as easily been the Federation scrambling for survival after the decimation of Starfleet in the Borg attack.
Could have just as easily been having to keep a Federation member world from leaving the fold.
It was kind of the theme.
And you asked what elements had to be connected to the era, not for any qualifications.
What would be a reason to place the show in the post-Picard era? To more easily have cameos from legacy characters occupying that era? No, thank you. To continue the “story of the 24th/25th century”? Not really interested, to be honest.
Frankly, I'm personally not someone who really cares about which fictional era Starfleet Academy (or any Trek show) is set in. That said, I appreciate how it gives the show a fresh feel untangled from everything that was going on in that time period. The fact that they are the first cadets to study at the newly re-opened Academy underscores the expectations placed on this new generation that just wouldn’t feel the same if they were just another year of cadets during Picard’s lifetime.
You say it "could have just as easily", but you haven't given a single reason why it would be "better".
Which isn't the same story at all. Or are we employing the Argument of Theseus again?
I think it's arguing from assumption; the Burn equals bad so why place it there but framed as a question. Except the answer is already assumed.
This. Time periods are not enamoring to me but the idea of the first class in a long period is very much enjoyable idea.
No actually it wasn't the theme.
The theme was "this group's journey through the academy".
The reason to place the show in the post-Picard era is that more people care about that era then they do the post burn Discovery era.
Which matters because people caring about a show is a big part of how it stays on the air.
Actually the story beats would be exactly the same.
Betazed leaving and coming back was unimportant to the story, it was just a mechanism for introducing Tarima and creating reasoning for moving the capital of the Federation away from Earth. Which could have just as easily been handled by "Betazed has been screwed over so much by the rolling string of disasters since the Dominion war that they're planning on leaving".
It's the same reason you could have replaced "Omega Mines surrounding the Federation" with "Planet destroying bomb on Betazed" in the final two episodes to no real story difference.
Except it wasn't, it was the first class in a what was effectively a new building.
Or did you forget there were at least two classes of cadets before them?
HilariousExcept it wasn't, it was the first class in a what was effectively a new building.
Yes, the first class on the historic site of the Academy. If that can be done in Picard era I welcome it.
I don't care about the era though. So, if you can give me an Academy series as engaging as this one then more power to you.
Trying to stop someone leaving in the first place and trying to woo them back are an entirely different scenario. It's the difference between trying to fix a relationship at the point its breaking and trying to get back with your ex ten years later.
But clearly you're at a point of every story in every Trek show doesn't need to be specific to that Trek show if you change enough things about it.
We're talking about story beats not scenarios.
The "scenario" was fully unimportant to the episode, and even the greater story of the season. It was, as I already explained, just a mechanism for introducing Tarima and creating reasoning for moving the capital of the Federation away from Earth.
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